On Jan 14, 2014, at 22:43, Chris Mohler wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:52 PM, peter sikking <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> - even if TITo response time is instant, keyword formulation -> >> typing in a text based interface is not exactly fast; >> please drop the ‘its fast’ argument; > > And yet the desktop menu in Mint/Cinnamon does precisely this and it > *is* fast. I type "Win-key,c,h,r,Enter" and have Chromium running. > Easy. Faster than the menu navigation. I go without clicking an item > in the system menu for weeks at a time, on a desktop I use daily. let me give an example of what I mean in a GIMP context (because that is the only thing that counts). if a particular user uses Layer->New from Visible regularly, then invoking it with a mouse from the menu will be nigh impossible to beat with TITo, even if TITo manages to have a unique 2 char code for it in the given localisation (fat chance). the time loss is already there before the / shortcut is hit because it takes mental time and effort for users to get to the point of hitting that key (and you and I and all other users do not record that time loss, because we are so busy figuring out the shortcut; this means none of us is a reliable witness where it comes to how fast this stuff is) > Nor do I see adding a text-driven action/menu system as any sort of UI > failure. or being in the least bit "misguided". What's inherently > evil about adding shortcuts to get things done? now that you ask: I would be misguiding one million users by saying on the record: here is a way to use GIMP, for intense use. > And if some labels aren't clear in TITo, might they need to be looked > at anyway - maybe they really are ambiguous or could be worded better? > The couple mentioned in the BZ report seemed a little funky. I am happy to change a menu label for any good reason (that is helping users), but never to help TITo out (which is helping a mechanical robot). --ps founder + principal interaction architect man + machine interface works http://blog.mmiworks.net: on interaction architecture _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list