On 16/11/12 15:46, Alexia Death wrote: > the second usecase is not a usecase for GIMP.[....] > You can use gimp for this, but do not expect it to > be convenient. you are just using the wrong tool. To me it seems you have lost any perspective whatsoever why people would want to use GIMP - they do so because they know their way around the tool, if it doesn't declare war on their workflow - which you are doing by declaring it the "wrong tool" for small tasks. What makes you the judge, jury and executioner in this case of "developer opinion" against "user workflow"? What if I want to add a layer with my watermark to every photo? That's something most other programs can't handle properly - these photos only exist for one purpose - to save them as JPEG to be uploaded into a web presentation. Will I ever need these as XCF? Heck no, the original is sufficient for me and the XCF is trivial but takes up too much space on the disk (I have the added layer stored once as well as the original photo, that's often enough). If I am editing an image to my liking I usually need several sizes and sometimes even aspect crops. Since sharpening is the last step in almost all of my workflows I end up creating a master (saved as XCF) which I don't want to mess up further. That master I open and scale and sharpen as I like, save the result (err. export the result) and toss it to start again - now it prompts me to create yet another XCF which I will never ever need, I have a master copy - which I may in fact lose if I happen to hit the save short cut because being in a hurry! I could go on to describe additional uses where people that use GIMP even for small mundane tasks which never ever will prompt the requirement of using an XCF - people whose long loyalty to the GIMP you are now testing to the limit by declaring war on their specific and very valid use case. For me this only means: I'm a book author for photography books and in these I usually add some sort of recommendations on which tools on the computer side would be worthwhile having around, my coauthor has up to now recommended Adobe programs and I was sort of inclined to include free alternatives like the GIMP. With GIMP 2.8 I have decided against doing that because I cannot support your narrowed view which workflow is worthwhile and which isn't... -- regards Karl Günter Wünsch _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list