Hi Patrick, On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:30:29 -0700 Patrick Horgan <phorgan1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 08/04/2012 02:43 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Hi Patrick, > > > > ...elision by patrick... > > Well, calling GNU Autotools "Autohell" is not an ad-hominem attack. > > However, assuming that since I called it "Autohell" it is wrong (or > > "flamebait"), is. See: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem > Lol! Look in that article under abusive. It is exactly ad-hominem. > By doing a personal attack, calling it autohell, instead of having > anything to say about why it's good or not, you exactly fulfill the > definition of an ad-hominem attack. Well, I have looked in that article under abusive and I still don't see how my page constitutes of an ad-hominem attack just by the fact it calls GNU Autotools "Autohell". An Ad-hominem attack has the following form: 1. Sophie says something. 2. Jack finds something questionable or wrong about Sophie herself. 3. Jack concludes that Sophie is wrong due to #2. The Wikipedia page gives the following examples: <<<< * "You can't believe John when he says the proposed policy would help the economy. He doesn't even have a job." * "Candidate Jane's proposal about zoning is ridiculous. She was caught cheating on her taxes in 2003." * "What would Mary know about fixing cars? She is a woman." (an example of Ad feminam) * "What makes you so smart and all-knowing to deny God's existence? You haven't even finished school." * "Your fashion opinion isn't valid, you can't even afford new shoes." * "Your exposition is highly correct and valid, but you don't have enough academic degree" (an example of the Credential fallacy). [7] >>>> Now my page ( http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/autohell/ ) gives many valid reasons why CMake is superior and GNU Autotools is inferior, and as a result concludes it is valid to nickname Autotools "Autohell" as a derogatory name, just based on their own deficiencies. So how does it consist of an ad-hominem attack? Regards, Shlomi Fish -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ UNIX Fortune Cookies - http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/ He who reinvents the wheel, may actually invent a much better wheel. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list
