Can I add something? You all may be right - discussing and checking UI changes are very very important and additional optional features are not the solution. And it makes sense to have one person (or a small group) that knows the way to go and keeps the overview. And on the other side, I can completely understand the TO - the current UI is definitely worth some polishing so he has invested some time and wants to get his stuff in. And on the first glance his fixes look very cool. All fine to now, two controversial opinions that may be solved by some trade-off... But I still have to give some critique: I have experienced similar incidents quite a few times. Again, you may all be right and I understand your perspective. But if you want to get/keep contributors you want to consider *how* to stress your workflow. Please try some empathy: somebody invests a lot of time (and even more important does the step to actually start doing something) and is rejected with not too much thankfulness. Or at least it sounds like that. I know about some people that wanted to contribute but also gave up due to bad help and harsh conversation. Sure, I understand that also you guys do it for free. My respect for this, truly. But it's only a small hint. Either you want GIMP going forwards then you should do everything to support it or you don't want it (what I don't think) then you also would not have to invest your precious time in the project. You can have your opinion, your workflow, your casual how-to-deal-with-new-features. But before rejecting contributors one should thank and laud them. And emphasize that one likes the changes but before implementing them has to re-consider and double-check them. And maybe offer some help or time-limit for the check. Otherwise it sounds like "thanks, we keep it in some temp file and maybe we find it in some years again but at the moment, no chance". Lauding would be the way to go in order to keep people motivated and in a good mood spending more time on the project. Since years I read about complaints GIMP has only 2 or 3 full developers and releases delay and delay. This will definitely not change with sentences like "nice try, but: no." You can ignore me if you think you should. I just had to try giving some explanations and in this way maybe helping the GIMP project. And again, I hold your work in high respect and am happy you do the stuff you do. That's no general criticism. It's only a little proposal how to do even better :) Regards, Mathias _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
