Hello Patrick, Thank you for the Tab hint. I have tested it a bit more and well its pretty good I must admit - I have one window, I can spread windows/images across many desktops and the toolbars are following the windows. There is no toolbox I got used to, but I can minimize this no-window, hide other boxes with Tab and get the menu by right click, so this is pretty much toolbox-menu alike behavior except I have to click more - this is not a big issue -and I have my functionality back, a bit different way. For the new design the toolbox and toolbars could be hidden by default not to mislead old users - otherwise I automatically look for a menu in the toolbox, when no toolbox is visible I quickly find no-window menu. When the no-menu is the only window and its pretty small its almost like old toolbox ;-) As you can see for my technical drawings/edition the most important was the menu, not the toolbox itself - this is why I was so upset for removing it with no option to put it back... and some additional window only disturbed my work. When the functionality is there, well the rest can look totally different and I can change my habits to click somewhere else, as my input to the GIMP development haha ;-) I also have some remarks to the window focus issues that you experienced: - if you have focus problem - this may be caused by a window manager - I am using xfce4 and I have set those settings to make windows behave as expected in gimp: "click to focus" (instead "focus follows mouse"), "give focus to new windows" and most important "raise windows that receive focus". - in the preferences / window management there is an option to "activate focused image" - this also may help you - I am not sure how this works on windows Also I have some improvement idea - there is an option to save windows position - this could also obey to the toolboxes and toolbars visibility, so after GIMP is restarted only the no-window is visible and no need to press Tab key. The window size is being remembered on my Unix box, so when I start GIMP and have only no-window and its almost like in the old GIMP, when both no-window is visible and the toolbox - this is a bit confusing to me. This could be made as an option - when user close application with toolbox/toolbars invisible - they are also hidden after program restart - or they are alsways visible on start (checbox maybe?). I think "the dinosaurs" can like this option ;-) Best regards, Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
