hi all, with GEGL's ability to only render what is visible on the screen (and ideally in that very resolution) we are comfortably spoilt for choice by when to render a composition to full resolution. While saving the user's work -- which amounts to the GEGL tree -- can be done quite quickly (assuming a size from a few KB to a few 100KBs for excessive painting), rendering to full resolution may take minutes to hours and allocate 100s MBs of disk space for huge/complex compositions. I see two poles for the rendering strategy, both of which have downsides: - eager rendering: render as soon as possible, latest when saving the composition - lazy rendering: render only when the full resolution is actually required, that is on export time Eager rendering gets in the way when the user terminates the GIMP session just to continue work the next morning. This breaks Save as in Save-my-Work. Lazy rendering may surprise users when it takes hours to print a composition or to export a JPG to send it to a collegue. Moreover, multiple exports duplicate the rendering effort. I'm not really shure if these are just corner cases. However, following the project vision's 'high-end' & 'cutting-edge' adjectives i assume GIMP striving to be a reasonable choice for the 'big' jobs. Then the user needs to be able to control when the composition gets rendered. The first-guess solution to add a checkbox to the save dialog, like ' [X] render to full resolution ' forces the user to think about rendering in advance and is likely to be confusing as the state of that checkbox has to be remembered. Consider a quick CTRL-S in fear of a system crash or save-a-copy to preserve older versions. The best solution i've found so far is to first save the GEGL tree to make shure the user's work is safe. After that, rendering will start, and the image window gets overlayed by a lightbox displaying the rendering progress and a button 'schedule rendering for later'. Some kind of dashboard for controlling scheduled jobs will problably be required for batch processing anyway. CTRL-S could potentially only save the composition without rendering to full resolution. ... still not that nice... any thoughts? regards, peter _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer