last one: (peter) yahvuu wrote: >>> there's one thing i don't understand, may be a misconception: >>> why is it necessary to have separate modes for editing the RGB data >>> and the plates? >> >> mainly because creating art on a RGB monitor, to be used on >> many media, is not the same _activity_ as bringing this art to >> _one_ particular printing press. >> >> also, it is better when the art itself is separated from the >> adaptation of >> it for one press run. > > ah, that helps. So it is deprecated to create single-ink 'light blue > text' > directly on the 'light blue' plate, as the text would then not be > known to > be part of the artwork. yes, but then I would not stop anybody from doing that. sometimes it will be necessary like applying a ghost image in matte varnish on top of a glossy full color image: it may be most efficient to do the matte varnish plate from scratch by itself... > Can you give an outline how the print color for that text will be > specified? specify a color (pantone, RAL, etc.) for the plate. > The RGB color isn't useful here and the text layer can't be accessed > while > the press projection is pulled over, IIUC. So each artwork layer > will have > a custom color separation setting resp. color mapping? no the other way around, each plate gets "mixed" from channels + layers. I know this is not simple nor solved at the moment. since the plate is a momochrome drawable, we need to look at the text layer and determine per pixel "how much is there", where 'how much' can be a choice or combination of the (inverse of) value/lightness/alpha/layer opacity, and perhaps more. >>> Is it correct that there's no 'live preview' of the effects that RGB >>> manipulations have on the plates? >> >> if that is really needed by some users (see the two activities above >> and also "no substitute for experience") then a second view of the >> file (View->New view) can be run with the projection pulled down. >> might be hard on the processor. > > Regarding the use-case of matching one color from a photo with a > predetermined ink combination, i think this will be useful. reading this again I am getting confused what you really mean here. > yep, that's the desired effect here. For the single-ink text > example, a bit more > than filling the light blue plate to 100% is required, though, as > the other > plates have to be set to 0% for that area. yeah, I realised that. must be part of the set-up to do that. > My question is how and where such a layer->plate mapping will be > specified, > for example when i want my text to be (0, 0, 50%, 50% ,0) on the > five plates. well, plates 3 and 4 need to be set up (in the projection set-up) to take 0.5 * "the (inverse of) value/lightness/alpha/layer opacity" --ps founder + principal interaction architect man + machine interface works http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer