On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 15:01, Maciej Pilichowski <bluedzins@xxxxx> wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 13:08:33 Fredrik Alströmer wrote: > >> I don't want to add fuel to the fire, > > Nah :-), we are talking not quarreling :-)) Well, in that case... ;) >> I just wanted to point out >> that Sven is not alone in his opinion. > > I realize that the current behaviour has the reason, but also I try > find out the way, so users with other workflow could benefit. It'll probably be very hard to solve for everyone, I guess solving for 'most people' (don't try to get a definition out of me on that one..) ;) is the best we can do. Note that I'm not saying I'm necessarily one of that group. >> I frequently find >> myself zooming out briefly to see how it works in context, just to >> zoom back in again a split-second later (very rarely zooming far >> enough to have the image become smaller than the window). > > This is odd, or I don't understand you -- that's because I do what you > do, and I always have to zoom out to such degree that the entire > image fits in the window. In other words I have to do 10 zoom outs > instead of just 1. And it is not helpful for me. I must say, now I don't understand what you're saying, so chances are there's been a misunderstanding here.. :) All I'm trying to say is that I zoom out and back in, perhaps a level or two to see the context, and without moving the mouse I zoom right back in again and get exactly the same view. >> If I do >> zoom out to see the whole image, I'm usually done with that section >> anyway, and at that point it's actually a good behavior (call it a >> compromise if you wish, for me it just speeds up the workflow). > > For me it slows me down, because after 10 zoom outs, I have to perform > 9 zoom ins, to get back to the level I wanted. Ok, so now you've lost me. You're asking for kind of a 'bookmarked view', so you don't have to zoom in again but rather 'undo' your zoom outs? >> Google maps is one of those that zoom in and out on the cursor, > > I just tried it, and it does not that (Firefox) -- it zooms the center > of the image. I pointed out at Miami which was in the bottom right > corner of the image, zoom in, Miami was gone. I just tried the same thing, and I ended up in Opa-Locka, Miami... Seriously though, how do you zoom in? (The behavior you're describing is consistent with clicking the + and - buttons? Keyboard perhaps?) If you're not using the scroll-wheel, than go ahead and take it for a spin. Zooming back out, same story, mouse in the lower right, and that's exactly where Miami ends up. > The effect of this (fixed point of zoom) is that the relation to mouse > when doing in&out is preserved. > > Jernej pointed out that PaintShopPro behaves like I wished for, so > they had a reason for this too. > > If those 3 modes cannot be combined into one (and I guess not), I > would love to see an option for it. After all, not every single > behaviour work for everybody. Adding options is rarely the answer. It has a tendency to blow an application to pieces. See this here for example (ok, perhaps a bit exaggerated, but still funny, and on a meta-level actually rather accurate) http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2008/03/05/simplicity/ I'm not familiar enough with the plug-in interfaces, but perhaps the behavior could be overridden using a plug-in, keeping the core product nice and clean. Greetings, Fredrik. _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
