I think you are too biased towards xcf as an everyday storage format. It is not needed very often, at least for now. May I provide my usual workflow? 1. I take pictures in RAW. 2. I convert the pictures I liked in UFRaw and save the result in jpg with maximum quality (1:1:1, floating point, 100%). The tests I made before showed there was no difference with png but the file sizes were less. If a photo requires cropping, resizing, retouching I process it in GIMP. And here is the main point: I save xcf only if I have made complex actions, including layers, which could take too much efforts to repeat. I store intermediate results as invisible layers as possible starting point for future modifications. Look: the final aim is jpg or any other common format (web, printing, etc.). I only save in xcf if I think it can happen I will need to edit it once more. Storing data in xcf is not so convenient as image viewers do not understand all its nuances. So in most of cases I need 2 things: original untouched RAW as an untouched in any sense source and a result, which is flat image format. This is rather common workflow I guess. If the situation with lossless editing and third-party image viewers changes I think the things with final format will change also. But currently the final format is flat image, not xcf. It is so for printing in a photo lab, web and so on. Storing additional large files or having to convert them to jpg each time they are needed to be handed to someone is not a good thing, at least for a person which has and stores RAWs. My 2c. peter sikking wrote: > Alexander Rabtchevich wrote: > >> While I haven't tried the new behavior, I would like to be able to >> see either I have made any changes after the export in the title bar >> or not. Now it is indicated with a star. I prefer to see it remained. > > > that would mean we needed two indicators, one that is is saved, > and one that it is exported. > > but that again would deceive users that export is nearly the same > as saving. it is not. > > maybe it is better to try it out (for a month) first. > because I am sure that the new clarity of when the work you > see on your screen is really safe (only in xcf) will change > users thinking and behaviour about how to secure their work > and when it is a good time to export. > > With respect Alexander Rabtchevich _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer