another round of review: OK, first the 5-slot color history: > So far, no one has given any feedback on the idea, or indeed any > acknowledgement of it. This disappoints me Sorry, I had to think about it more before stepping in to this, doing that yesterday would have been too fast. I see we need to maintain the following iron compatibility, with tools, scripts and users: - there needs to be a foreground color and an alternate, call them fg and alt, and they always need to have a value. - swapping fg and alt is very important. the magic-X is holy for usability sake. in the heat of painting it can be pressed with a surprising high frequency, so giving any meaning to clicking X twice is not possible. - the color of fg can be changed (color selector, eyedropper). this cannot change the value of alt. - assigning the default black + white to fg and alt needs to stay. way to much meaning behind that, mask painting for instance. disappointing conclusion: there is not much we can change about the current fg + bg, except renaming it to fg + alt, and fiddle with how it is used for instance in Edit->Fill with ..., or for creating new layers. The 5-slot color history can only work for fg, alt is not part of that (drag and drop of colors from history to alt could work, however). fg+history need another key-press than X to cycle through. the whole 5-slot color history (plus a pop-up with a lot of more (49?) older history) can be packed in the current fg/bg color dockable. toolbox: no, I do not think so. yesterday I said: > I can only see this change as an UI > improvement if it means getting rid of the bg color swatch. > Only then we can reach the goal of less user thinking, > instead of more. hmmm, bg (call it alt) is not going to go away; getting the bg color disconnected from file flattening during export is ruined by edge cases; and the layers always having an alpha: actually, why is that not simply so today? > However, > this may take some consideration as to when to adjust the color > history, as the color selection dialog of GIMP allows you to tweak > colors continuously, with no clear indication of when you're 'done' > selecting a color. ouch. that is a spanner in the works. png bKGD: I would say at this point: we stick to how GIMP opens those pngs now, as new doc or as layer (unless there is a horrible bug in it). Saving: I say again: avoid using this by default. --ps founder + principal interaction architect man + machine interface works http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer