On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Robert Krawitz wrote: > > I think the case of "text black" is a partial, qualified exception -- > but it's arguable that it has any bearing on RGB vs. CMYK. It really > means "the darkest, sharpest black that can be produced" regardless of > rendering device. It could just as well be represented as RGB+K, or > simply as a separate layer. I'd argue that it's actually a creative > choice, though. It doesn't necessarily mean the darkest, but it does mean the sharpest. And you're right that it could essentially be represented as RGB+K. > Perhaps prepress tasks would better be implemented as a plugin (or set > of plugins)? It's hard for me to see how trapping (for example) would > make any sense at all as part of the core, but as a plugin it would > make perfect sense. I know Adobe at least used to sell a product > called TrapWise whose purpose in life was to do nothing but trapping. Automatic trapping is actually not a bad idea for a plugin. You could have things like trap along path or edge detection trapping (which I used as an example of something that would be prohibitively expensive in an interactive mode, but in one-time mode wouldn't be an issue). It would, in general, be a very dumb plugin, but some simple jobs don't need intelligent algorithms to determine that we don't need the red eye effect trapped but that the magenta hankerchief in the suit pocket does need to be, just to trap the edge of the photo that got torn and you're outlining with a black border. > I don't know if it had a Photoshop plugin component or not. TrapWise began with Aldus and was subsequently acquired by Adobe. TrapWise is now owned by Kodak, who describe it thus[*]: ``TRAPWISE's streamlined workflow, intelligent trapping engine and flexible productivity tools combine to give you precision trapping whenever and wherever you need it.'' As I suggested in the other message, sophisticated automated trapping is probably going to be more difficult than simply implementing CMYK editing, since you're going to have to implement many of the same features--CMYK editing (batch, not interactive, granted), colorspace conversion, alterations to the XCF file format--plus a bunch of other features like advanced edge detection and an evaluation system to determine what needs to be trapped and what does not. There's a reason why TrapWise was pulling in $7000 a copy in 2001 when CS2 Premium was only $1200. [*] <http://graphics1.kodak.com/us/product/workflow_data_storage/production_planning/trapwise/default.htm> -- | Andrew A. Gill To ensure continued quality of service, | | this e-mail is being monitored by the NSA | | <superluser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <http://www.needsfoodbadly.com> | -- _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer