The toolbox Wilber problem

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Fl?vio Pontes <flaviocpontes@xxxxxxxxx> Wrote

is not a good
> indicator for
> a drop target. Not one of the ppl I showed it - all of them
> designers -
> recognized it as a drop target and, frankly, the image in
> there is
> simply wrong. If we need to make it recognizable as a drop
> target, we
> need to make it a drop target icon, that's all

do you have a example for a "recognizable drop target "?






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>    1. Re: Gimp 2.6. Segfault (Stephan Hegel)
>    2. Re: Automatically save curves file (Kent Tenney)
>    3. Re: Automatically save curves file (David Gowers)
>    4. Re: Automatically save curves file (Kent Tenney)
>    5. Re: The toolbox Wilber problem (Fl?vio Pontes)
>    6. Re: The toolbox Wilber problem (William Steidtmann)
>    7. Re: The toolbox Wilber problem (Sven Neumann)
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:41:41 +0200
> From: Stephan Hegel <stephan.hegel@xxxxxx>
> Subject: Re:  Gimp 2.6. Segfault
> To: gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <48E71E35.80501@xxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sven Neumann wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 18:15 +0200, Stephan Hegel
> wrote:
> >> Gimp-2.6 throws a segfault for me. 
> > It would help a lot if you could file a bug report for
> this. Thanks.
> You're welcome: #554966.
> 
> Rgds,
>   Stephan.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 06:17:16 -0500
> From: "Kent Tenney" <ktenney@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re:  Automatically save curves
> file
> To: saulgoode@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID:
> 	<ca816810810040417s2c7ab9f0v1c3489e4e61c0b35@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:01 PM,
> <saulgoode@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Quoting Kent Tenney <ktenney@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> >> will there be provisions to apply a saved curve to
> an image without the
> >> gui?
> >>
> >
> > If you have the GIMP Animation Package installed, you
> will find a plug-in
> > named 'plug-in-wr-curves' which permits
> application of a curves file.
> 
> I don't have GAP installed.
> 
> I've installed Gimp 2.6 on Ubuntu 8.04 using .deb's
> from
> http://www.getdeb.net/app/Gimp
> 
> will
> apt-get install gimp-gap
> 
> do what I want?
> or is there more to it?
> (I don't want to try and see for fear of breaking
> things)
> 
> Thanks,
> Kent
> 
> 
> >
> > plug-in-wr-curves
> >
> >  GIMP Plug-in
> >
> >  <Image>/Video/Layer/Colors/
> >
> >  Wrapper for GIMP Curves Tool call based on Curves
> file
> >
> > Parameters
> >
> >  run-mode      INT32      Interactive, non-interactive
> >  image         IMAGE      Input image
> >  drawable      DRAWABLE   Input drawable (must be a
> layer)
> >  filename      STRING     Name of a GIMP curves file
> (saved by the Curves
> > Tool)
> >
> > Return Values
> >
> >  the-drawable  DRAWABLE   the processed layer
> >
> > Additional Information
> >
> >  This Plugin loads a # GIMP Curves File, that was
> saved by
> >  the GIMP 2.0pre1 Curves Tool then calculates the
> curves
> >  (256 points foreach channel val,r,g,b,a) and calls
> the
> >  Curve Tool via PDB interface with the calculated
> curve
> >  points It also stores the points, and offers a
> >  GIMP_RUN_WITH_LAST_VALUES Interface and an Iterator
> >  Procedure for animated calls of the Curves Tool with
> >  varying values.
> >
> > Author: Wolfgang Hofer (hof@xxxxxxxx)
> >
> > Date:   2.4.1; 2008/01/30
> >
> > Copyright: Wolfgang Hofer
> >
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 22:36:03 +0930
> From: "David Gowers" <00ai99@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re:  Automatically save curves
> file
> To: "Kent Tenney" <ktenney@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID:
> 	<23f4e3390810040606u2ab3da44v1f8e51acdaddbb9a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Hi Kent,
> 
> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Kent Tenney
> <ktenney@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:01 PM,
> > <saulgoode@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Quoting Kent Tenney <ktenney@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>
> >>> will there be provisions to apply a saved
> curve to an image without the
> >>> gui?
> >>>
> >>
> >> If you have the GIMP Animation Package installed,
> you will find a plug-in
> >> named 'plug-in-wr-curves' which permits
> application of a curves file.
> >
> > I don't have GAP installed.
> >
> > I've installed Gimp 2.6 on Ubuntu 8.04 using
> .deb's from
> > http://www.getdeb.net/app/Gimp
> >
> > will
> > apt-get install gimp-gap
> >
> > do what I want?
> AFAIK yes.
> > or is there more to it?
> > (I don't want to try and see for fear of breaking
> things)
> There should be nothing to break -- GIMP-GAP is only a
> suite of
> plugins, if you install it and find it doesn't work,
> it's easy enough
> to remove it using Synaptic.
> 
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kent
> >
> 
> 
> HTH,
> David
> 
> -- 
> Everything has reasons. Nothing has justification.
> ?io havas kialojn; Nenia?o havas pravigeron.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 09:50:12 -0500
> From: "Kent Tenney" <ktenney@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re:  Automatically save curves
> file
> Cc: Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID:
> 	<ca816810810040750l35f21f6ex15250c0c14780552@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:01 PM,
> <saulgoode@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Quoting Kent Tenney <ktenney@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> >> will there be provisions to apply a saved curve to
> an image without the
> >> gui?
> >>
> >
> > If you have the GIMP Animation Package installed, you
> will find a plug-in
> > named 'plug-in-wr-curves' which permits
> application of a curves file.
> >
> > plug-in-wr-curves
> >
> >  GIMP Plug-in
> >
> >  <Image>/Video/Layer/Colors/
> >
> >  Wrapper for GIMP Curves Tool call based on Curves
> file
> >
> > Parameters
> >
> >  run-mode      INT32      Interactive, non-interactive
> >  image         IMAGE      Input image
> >  drawable      DRAWABLE   Input drawable (must be a
> layer)
> >  filename      STRING     Name of a GIMP curves file
> (saved by the Curves
> > Tool)
> >
> > Return Values
> >
> >  the-drawable  DRAWABLE   the processed layer
> >
> > Additional Information
> >
> >  This Plugin loads a # GIMP Curves File, that was
> saved by
> >  the GIMP 2.0pre1 Curves Tool
> 
> Darn, it seems this won't help, the format of the Gimp
> 2.6 autosaved curves
> file must be different than the one this plugin was written
> against.
> 
> Very cool stuff in GAP though.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kent
> 
>  then calculates the curves
> >  (256 points foreach channel val,r,g,b,a) and calls
> the
> >  Curve Tool via PDB interface with the calculated
> curve
> >  points It also stores the points, and offers a
> >  GIMP_RUN_WITH_LAST_VALUES Interface and an Iterator
> >  Procedure for animated calls of the Curves Tool with
> >  varying values.
> >
> > Author: Wolfgang Hofer (hof@xxxxxxxx)
> >
> > Date:   2.4.1; 2008/01/30
> >
> > Copyright: Wolfgang Hofer
> >
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:13:31 -0300
> From: Fl?vio Pontes <flaviocpontes@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re:  The toolbox Wilber problem
> To: GIMP Developers List
> <gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <1223133211.8544.20.camel@erasto>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Tobias, I apologize for replying to your personal address.
> Here's to the
> list.
> 
> IMHO it is just a waste of space because it is not a good
> indicator for
> a drop target. Not one of the ppl I showed it - all of them
> designers -
> recognized it as a drop target and, frankly, the image in
> there is
> simply wrong. If we need to make it recognizable as a drop
> target, we
> need to make it a drop target icon, that's all. A
> Wilber background
> image tha doesn't even show up entirely is a poor
> indicator. It looks
> more as a - ugly, but that's debatable - decoration
> than anything else.
> 
> I'm not saying that we shouldn't have a drop target
> in the toolbox
> window, but that it should be more obvious and take less
> space from the
> tools that are the main function of the window.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Fl?vio.
> 
> Am Freitag, den 03.10.2008, 11:13 -0700 schrieb Patrick
> Horgan:
> > Martin Nordholts wrote:
> > > ~~~%< snip! >%~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > What are peoples thoughts here?
> > >   
> > He's cute there, but doesn't add any
> functionality, no?  
> 
> He is there, to indicate that the toolbox is an drop area
> for images.
> Like the Wilbert in the empty window.
> 
> Regards,
> Tobias
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:57:28 -0500
> From: William Steidtmann <billstei@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re:  The toolbox Wilber problem
> To: gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <48E79268.2020005@xxxxxxxx>
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> 
> I also think that the toolbox Wilber is an inefficient use
> of space, so 
> here is an idea (my apologies if this has already been
> discussed/thought 
> of):  Right now there are 3 status items in 
> Preferences->Toolbox->Appearance, that when checked
> appear below the 
> toolbox tool icons.  Add a 4th status item choice which
> would appear as 
> a drop box/icon with Wilber's face in it.  Those who
> like having it can 
> check it on, and those who feel that any/all 4 items are
> wasted space 
> can turn all 4 off.  The space above the toolbox is
> eliminated.
> 
> Bill
> 
> -- 
> The second mouse gets the cheese.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:06:44 +0200
> From: Sven Neumann <sven@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re:  The toolbox Wilber problem
> To: William Steidtmann <billstei@xxxxxxxx>
> Cc: gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <1223136404.24753.19.camel@bender>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Hi,
> 
> if you don't like it, or it doesn't fit your screen
> layout, then why
> don't you just turn it off? There's a gimprc option
> for this and it is
> documented. There is no UI for it, but that should be OK.
> There are
> quite a few options that don't have a UI, simply
> because they are not
> considered important enough to clutter the preferences
> dialog (which is
> still way too cluttered).
> 
> 
> Sven
> 
> 
> 
> 
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