[is there a better list for this? which?] There's a lot of bad tutorials out there. Some of them are on the gimp.org site, some are on gumpusers.com, etc... and I said in Poland we needed some hot tutorial love... Some properties of a good tutorial, I claim, are (1) it tells you at the start 1a. what you will learn 1b. what you must already know in order to use the tutorial 1c. roughly how long it will take you (2) at each step it shows 2a. a screenshot of the image 2b. any necessary dialogue boxes with settings you must enter 2c. the layers dialogue, or anything else that will help the user know they did the earlier steps correctly 2d. guidance for what to do if you went wrong. (3) everything you must do is explicitly mentioned, including "select none", "create new layer", "select a layer again after saving the selection to a channel", "choose the brush tool". (4) any dialogues, screenshots, messages are given in the same language as the tutorial (so on translation, new screenshots may be needed), and language of the tutorial has been checked for obvious errors... (5) should be under the GNU Free Documentation License. I don't want to step on anyone's toes here... but maybe we can go through the tutorials on the gimp site, and make new ones, fix bugs and/or improve existing ones? I notice also, e.g. "GIMPLITE QUICKIES [1]" says, at the top, Text and images Copyright (C) 2004 Carol Spears and may not be used without permission of the author. I wonder if Carol would be amenable to re-releasing these tutorials under a GNU-compatible license so we can edit them? Or give permission for them to be edited -- since it's too much work for one person to do, and in any case they'd certainly benefit from a second person's eyes... I'm prepared (GULP) to work on keeping a list of tutorials and their status if some other people can help out e.g. by testing the tutorials (I can do some of that too, and I don't mind working on the English of some of them, too; I can't translate them myself, though). How about a "Made for GIMP 2.6" icon to go on tutorials that have been checked? (or "Made for 2.8") I hope one result would be that it would be easier to check the tutorials again next time round... Liam [Ankh] -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org www.advogato.org _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer