On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Souichi TAKASHIGE <sigetch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Sorry, I'm currently working on another program, so I have not > maintained the patch any longer. > > GIMP will be fully non-destructive editor in the future, but I think > that is not a good news for users who use GIMP as a painting tool. > Non-destructive editing is convenient in some situations, but a lot of > brush painting processes don't need to be non-destructive, and making > all of them non-destructive is a waste of time and resources. They do not need to be made fully non-destructive, for the paint core I have been experimenting with on top of GEGL[1] I have both a destructive and a non destructive version. The difference between them being that the destructive one continuously replaces the contents of a GeglBuffer instead of building a graph. Making things non-destructive doesn't necessarily imply additional work when creating brush painting processes if the infrastructure to do so exists. (I've mainly experimented with the destructive version thus far when I've had time since it is significantly faster than the non-destructive one which depends on better automatic cache purging to be more efficient. 1: http://pippin.gimp.org/tmp/soft-strokes.png > GEGL and GIMP are great work of cource, it is very powerful photo > retouching tool. But it's not good for painting images from scratch > since it lacks a lot of features specialized for painters (like view > rotation and flipping.) These are features that might easily be added on top of a GEGL based, both destructive and non-destructive paint core. At least if using hardware acceleration like the ClutterGegl view widget to display the final composite. At GUADEC this year I showed a mini painting app embedded in a presentation tool where I could freely rotate the GEGL paint demo and paint at it at any angle. > I think being general purpose program is a waste of time: code size > will grow constantly and the architecture will be more and more > complex. No one can maintain it. So GIMP should focus on the photo > retouching, and other programs like Artweaver, Gogh, and MyPaint > should focus on painting features. For some things, like natural media simulation using cellular automata like approaches I tend to agree, this is also one of the few types of simulations that I think would be difficult to make work in a non-desctructive fashion. For other types of user empowering painting features I do think they can belong in GIMP as well, or perhaps in other applications built on top of GEGL. /Øyvind K. -- «The future is already here. It's just not very evenly distributed» -- William Gibson http://pippin.gimp.org/ http://ffii.org/ _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
