Hi, >> 1.is this going to be avaiable in some of the 2.5 releases, because if >> it is,i'm gonna bug tests it > No, it is not going to be available in 2.5, unless you fix the patch > or persuade Souichi Takashige to do so. Sorry, I'm currently working on another program, so I have not maintained the patch any longer. GIMP will be fully non-destructive editor in the future, but I think that is not a good news for users who use GIMP as a painting tool. Non-destructive editing is convenient in some situations, but a lot of brush painting processes don't need to be non-destructive, and making all of them non-destructive is a waste of time and resources. GEGL and GIMP are great work of cource, it is very powerful photo retouching tool. But it's not good for painting images from scratch since it lacks a lot of features specialized for painters (like view rotation and flipping.) I think being general purpose program is a waste of time: code size will grow constantly and the architecture will be more and more complex. No one can maintain it. So GIMP should focus on the photo retouching, and other programs like Artweaver, Gogh, and MyPaint should focus on painting features. -- Souichi TAKASHIGE _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer