Sven Neumann writes: > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:18 -0500, Kevin Cozens wrote: > > I prefer to have these showing in the toolbox. When I lost them a some time > > ago after a cvs up, the first thing I did was find out where they went and how > > to get them back. > > You could at least have tried to live without them for a while before > judging about this change. That's one of the main problems with the GIMP > user interface. People are afraid of trying new things and miss what > they have learnt to use. So, the fact that you immidiately renabled > these widgets only show us that you are reluctant to changes. It doesn't I'm not Kevin, but I had the same reaction he did. In my defense (and maybe Kevin's), when the toolbox selectors disappeared, the new dialogs didn't automatically make themselves visible, so it just looked like a bug that they were suddenly gone, and getting back my color selector was my first priority. A new user wouldn't have that problem. But Sven is right (even though he's talking to Kevin) that some of us didn't give the new layout a fair chance. So I've been doing that for the past couple days, and it actually works fine. I like not needing the popup any more, and for most operations it doesn't require any more clicks than the old layout. There are still two things I miss. Neither of these will stop me from using the new setup, but I wonder if they might cause a problem to non-geeky users: 1. Being able to drag from the foreground or background swatch into the image. Sometimes I use the keybindings (ctrl-, and ctrl-.) but other times it seems more natural to drag the color, and if the swatches aren't exposed (because they're hidden in a tab), it would take two extra clicks to drag them (two clicks assuming that I need the layers dialog visible most of the time, so I need to switch back). 2. The sliders for RGB. I can do HSV adjustments in the big color rectangle, but if I want to adjust RGB values (for instance, to ensure that I'm getting pure red) I have to use the HTML field or click the R, G and B buttons in sequence. I can't just glance at the three sliders like with the old dialog. -- ...Akkana "Beginning GIMP: From Novice to Professional": http://gimpbook.com _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer