Hi Tor, > The consensus so far seem to be that GLib should not open any > console windows by itself. OK, fine with me, such a change could > be done even in the stable branch (2.4.x) IMHO. But I certainly > hope that it doesn't mean that people then will start whining > that they want "log windows" for warnings and error > messages. Sheesh, that's what the console windows are/were, > dammit. Like Jernej mentioned, if anybody wants to have a console window then they just have to compile it without the -mwindows option in GCC and whatever equivalent in MSVC. I think if a developer explicitly compiles a program to be GUI only on win32, then he/she expects to see no console window. So in my humble opinion, I think GLIB should not open a console window if stdout and stderr doesn't exist. I also do not think that a "log window" is necessary since the console window can be so easily obtained. Developers also have the option of using g_log_set_handler and g_set_print_handler functions for hooking into any messages generated and redirecting them to somewhere else (file, application dialogs etc.). Perhaps, it would be nice if somehow the console window opened currently could be closed without shutting down the whole GUI application. Unfortunately, windows does not allow that I think. Or does it? Regards, Alif. -- "Heaven is the peaceful place on earth...New Zealand." -- Alif Wahid.