Hi, whenever one reads some of the public forums about GIMP there's one problem on the Win32 platform that shows up over and over again: Whenever GIMP or any library that GIMP is using writes something to stdout/stderr, on Win32 a console window is opened. There is really no reason a user should ever be presented with whatever GIMP or any of it's libraries are sending to stdout/stderr. The console window alone would be annoying and useless enough but the real problem is that closing this window closes GIMP. So what the user sees is an error window with a cryptic message and if you close that window, the application is quit. It is not surprising that the casual user thinks that GIMP has just crashed. This little stupidity makes GIMP on Win32 look a lot less stable than it actually is. The problem is known for years and gets reported over and over again. Yet noone has ever done anything about it. Why is that? I don't know enough about the Win32 platform but I simply cannot imagine that there isn't a simple solution for this. Why doesn't the Win32 installer setup GIMP in a way that if it is not started from a terminal window, stdout and stderr are redirected to the digital dustbin? There got to be an equivalent to /dev/null on Win32. Sven