Note: I am adding a CC: to the gimp-web list and I suggest to continue the discussion there because this is slightly off-topic for the developers list. On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:01:29 +0200, David Neary <dneary@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Sven Neumann wrote: > > David Neary <dneary@xxxxxxx> writes: > > > The web team says it's ready to move, several developers have said > > > they want it to move now, I just wanted to sort out what exactly is > > > preventing the website move. > > > > If you would have read gimp-web list (where this topic should actually > > be discussed), you would know that there were good reasons for not > > doing the move immidiately. I believe that most or evenall of these > > points have been addressed in the meantime but we should leave it up > > to the web team to decide when they want to move the site. Yes, most of these points have been addressed in the meantime and the site has been ready since the 23rd of September. On that day, I posted a message to the gimp-web list summarizing the status of the web site, the recent changes, and saying that the site was ready for the move. Some additional issues were raised, and fixed on the same day. There have been almost no changes to the web site since then, because everybody in the web team is waiting for the site to move. [...] > So as far as I can tell, the web team is waiting for the switch > to happen. I am honestly interested in knowing why it hasn't. Moving the web site will require more than a simple DNS switch: the machine hosting the old web site will be replaced by the new one. So moving the web site requires moving all user accounts from the old machine (wilber) to the new one. Wilber is also hosting most of the other *.gimp.org web sites (such as developer.gimp.org) and handles all gimp.org e-mail traffic. This migration will have to be done by someone who has root access for both machines and who can update all DNS entries, so this is out of the scope of the gimp-web team. As far as I know, the only ones who can do something about it are Yosh (Manish Singh) and Snorfle (Shawn T. Amundson). Two weeks ago, Yosh sent an e-mail saying that he was too busy to move the site at that time, but he was hoping to do it soon. Last week, he sent me a message saying that he would try to do it during the weekend. It looks like he didn't have the time to do it. He is probably too busy with other things. Although the wait and the lack of updates are a bit frustrating, I cannot really blame him for that: as I am also doing the gimp stuff during my spare time, I understand that when you have little or no spare time, it is difficult to take care of the GIMP, the web site, etc. Sometimes, real life gets in the way of the fun stuff. :-( And if Yosh is the only one who can do something about it, I prefer to let him find enough time to do it right than to do half of the job in a hurry and then leave the web site or some accounts in a broken state that can only be fixed later when he finds more time. -Raphaël P.S.: Dave, you mentioned that you had problems subscribing to the gimp-web list. I remember having had some problems as well, but I eventually found a way to make it work. I don't remember exactly how but there are several ways (web or e-mail) to subscribe and to confirm the subscription and at least one of them works. Please try subscribing again, because any discussion about the web site should take place on the gimp-web list.