From: Sven Neumann <sven@xxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:15:25 +0200 Robert L Krawitz <rlk@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > IMHO, this is not a good reason for numbering it 2.0. By now, GTK+ > stands independently of the GIMP; it's maintained by different people, > the releases aren't synchronized, and indeed (even in 1.2) the GIMP > has its own widget set layered on top of GTK+. Huh? Well, of course we have build widgets on top of the toolkit we use. What are you trying to prove here? I fail to see your point. > Whatever the origins of the name, at present GTK+ is no more "the > GIMP toolkit" than Gimp-Print is "the Print plug-in for the GIMP". I don't agree. I do think that GIMP and GTK+ are in fact still more tightly coupled than you receive it. GIMP developers are constantly contributing to GTK+ and they do take part in decisions made for GTK+. At the same time GTK+ developers are giving the GIMP developers a hand when it comes to improving and debugging The GIMP. The two projects are not as diverged as perhaps gimp-print and gimp. The point of both of these comments is that these two projects are not joined at the hip. They have independent release cycles, and GTK+ itself is considerably more than just a service library for the GIMP (which is why it's necessary to layer other widgets on top of it). Furthermore, from a user standpoint functionality such as CMYK and 16 bits is a lot more interesting than the fact that it's layered on top of GTK+ (very few end users really care if it's based on GTK+, Qt, Xaw, Motif, or whatnot). There may certainly be significant contributions from the GIMP back to GTK+, but that doesn't mean that the entire architecture of the GIMP is inextricably linked to that of GTK+ in the way that, say, KDE is intertwined with Qt (where the version numbers now do match from release to release). Unless we're talking about a complete rearchitecting of the system (and switching from one version to another of a UI framework doesn't qualify in my book), IMHO internal changes aren't usually a reason to bump the major version number. There should be some really compelling change in the user capabilities in addition to major internal changes. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf@xxxxxxxxxxxx Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton
