Hi Nathan, when I updated my gimp tree this morning I was surprised to see this commit: 2003-01-30 Nathan Summers <rock@xxxxxxxx> * app/tools/gimptoolgui.[ch]: GimpToolGui, a new class descended from GimpObject to be used to separate GUI from logic. Heavily inspired by GimpDrawTool. Not actually used by anything yet. Would you mind to explain what you have in mind here? Looks a lot like the GimpDrawTool actually and I'd like to hear about your plans for the tools since of course Mitch and me have a plan as well. I must admit that we haven't told you about it neither but we are actively working towards a massive tool redesign for quite some time now. Salut, Sven