I live in Florida. Tampa specifically, which is a great city, even if I do live here. And know what is perpetually annoying? Yankees coming down talking about how they do it up North. For those of recent (that being within the last couple of years) arrival to the world of GNU/Linux/Open Source, live here a while before you go telling us how you did it back home. Welcome to GNU/Linux/Open Source computing. The reason why (and I remember being a newbee, thinking guys like who I am now are just arrogant assholes, stuck in the past) we do things in *nix the way we do is because it works. I has worked for a long time, and being that it works, why make changes for constantly changing dialect, or drop well founded methods cause newbees find them too hard? These things are not hard, they are just the essential requirements of a reliable system. From OS to application. From file systems to network services. This stuff is older than many of the "developers" pretending to develop. And as for the importance of gimp to the GNU/Linux community, consider the standard it has set among the community, as referenced by other GNU/Linux projects. For instance: "Glame 0.6.4, the supposed-to-be last release in the 0.6 series, was released today, Fri 22 Nov 2002, to the public. Leaked with this release were some rare but still major bugfixes such as corruption problems on import and redrawing problems within the filter canvas. The most prominent new feature of this release is the added Italian localization. GLAME is targeted to be the GIMP for audio processing. Currently we support non destructive multitrack editing, undo, redo, cut&paste and even realtime effects with OSS/ALSA. Import/Export WAV, AIFF, SND, IRCAM file formats." gimp is more than a graphics program, and newbees show themselves green when they haven't a clue about that or anything Unix. Understand AND appreciate the dispostion of those who came before you, and those who will be here after you've long gone. You'd damn well better learn Unix, or get lost. With no apologies. Don't let /dev/null smack you on the way out. For those of you who are NOT so stupid as to discount thirty years of IT development by the best talent to ever exist, understand your code lives in Unix/Linux, so coding is more than the ANSI standard -- it's the shell environment (go BASH!), and Unix tool conventions. And why YES! Regular expressions are a CORE competency. My apologies to those who are right now saying: "Duh?" But from what I've been reading on this list, a teacher's corrections are in order. David Weeks -- You can call me at: 813-236-2009, USA dweeks@xxxxxxxxxxx Shop TampaPC.com!
