On 1 Jun 2001, at 13:51, Sven Neumann wrote: > Lourens Veen <jsr@xxxxxx> writes: > > > Hmm, I use the bucket fill all the time, both for patterns and > > filling selections. If I want to fill a region with a similar > > colour with another one I usually select it with the magic > > wand and then bucket fill. It's easier to see how far you'll > > get that way. As far as I'm concerned the threshold > > can disappear, making it default to always fill the > > entire selection (or the entire image if there is no > > selection). Magic wand can do the selecting. > > this sounds reasonable to me. On the other hand, this would > render the bucket fill tool almost useless since you can do > the color and pattern fill much easier using DND. The sole > advantage of the Bucket Fill tools is the threshold > functionality and the fact that the possibility to fill using > DND is not obvious. > > Any other opinions on this subject? I thought you'd never ask. ;-) First, the Bucket Fill dialog only mentions Threshold as an option to decide how mich should be filled. This would suggest that a threshold is being used all the time. Filling a selection defies the interface here. If you guys decide to program a Bucket Fill function that always fills the whole selection, then the interface should mirror this: once a user has made a selection and then doubleclicks on the Bucket Fill icon to conjure up the Bucket Fill dialog, the threshold should be put to maximum (255) and grayed out. This should make it immediately clear to the user that (s)he is now working in a special mode. If they like, users can then decide to look up in the manual what that special mode means. I consider it to be a bug that there is a discrepancy between what the program interface (in the shape of the Bucket Fill dialog) tells me and what the program actually does. Second, I feel that (in the light of User Interface rule #1 that says never to break an existing user expectation or experience), unless more than 90 % of the current and new GIMP users have never used another raster graphics editor before, the GIMP should behave in this respect like most of the other 'competing' tools, UNLESS there is an extremely good reason to do otherwise. I personally cannot think of such a reason, but then again, I am not a graphics artist, so maybe someone else can name some such reasons. -- branko collin collin@xxxxxxxxx