Hey all At SIGGRAPH I saw "Corel Network Painter" or something like that in action. Basically there were a bunch of people all painting on the same image via the network. Something worth duplicating in the GIMP? Another idea I just had: There are lots of parts of the GIMP where there is a a matrix transform involved (transform tool, gimp-freetype, various other plugins). What if there was a common GIMP widget for the display of this matrix, with DnD? Then I could use the transform tool to find the rotation of a skewed image, drag that transform matrix into gimp-freetype, and render text perfectly rotated for that image. Whee! Tom -- -- Tom Rathborne tomr@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.aceldama.com/~tomr/ -- "We promise according to our hopes, and perform according to our fears." -- -- Francois, Duc de la Rochefoucauld