Re: gimp-docs-list Digest, Vol 48, Issue 3

[James Bush <theoknock@xxxxxxxxx>]

Substitute "rather" for "but."

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Today's Topics:

   1.  Suggested changes for GIMP documentation (Roger Goodman)
   2. Re:  Suggested changes for GIMP documentation (Marco Ciampa)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 09:20:43 -0400
From: Roger Goodman 
To: gimp-docs-list@xxxxxxxxx
Subject:  Suggested changes for GIMP documentation
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All,
     Looking at the webpage at 
http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-introduction-whats-new.html, I would 
like to suggest the following changes (words or phrases between 
parenthesis):

2. What's New in GIMP 2.8?
GIMP 2.8 is another important release from a development point of view, 
even more that(than) it was for 2.6. It features a big change to the 
user interface(,) addressing one of the most(-) often received 
complaints: the lack of a single(-) window mode. Moreover(,) the 
integration effort of ( the )GEGL library had(has) taken a big step 
forward, reaching more than 90% of the GIMP core, a new powerful 
transformation tool, layer groups, new common options, new brushes, 
improved text tool, and more.

New single window mode

    With this new feature(,) it will be possible to work with all the
    GIMP dialogs inside one big window, usually with the image(s)
    centered inside. No more floating panels or toolbox(,) but the
    dialogs could be arranged inside this single window. This mode
    could(can) be enabled or disabled (all the - change to at any) time,
    even while working, and the option (will be remembered through the -
    change to: is persistent across)  sessions.

I'm not entirely sure what the phrase "but the dialogs could be arranged 
inside this single window." means, so I won't make an attempt to change 
it for now, but it needs to be changed somehow so that I can better 
understand what is meant.

New file save workflow

    Now Save and Save as work only with xcf formats. If you want to
    export(save) an image in another format, say jpg or png, you have to
    explicitly Export it. This enhances the workflow and lets you simply
    overwrite the original file(,) or export to various other formats.


A new tool: Cage Transform

    With this new tool is now possible to create custom bending of a
    selection (by )just moving control points. This is the result of one
    of our Google Summer of Code 2010 students.


Improved Text Tool

    The text tool has been enhanced to support on(-) canvas text
    writing(,) and make(s) possible changing the attributes of a single
    char(acter).

New layer groups

    It is now possible to group (a )set of layers(,) and treat them like
    an entity. It is possible to switch a group on or off(,) and to move
    the group in the layers dialog. It is easy to add / remove existing
    layers to a group(,) or to create / delete a layer inside the
    group(,) and it is even possible to create embedded groups of
    groups. It is possible to apply a layer mode to a group as you do
    with a single layer. All this greatly improves the workflow with
    complex multilayer images(,) making them easier to manage.

Cairo porting

    Started with GIMP version 2.6, all tools rendering on canvas is(are)
    now completely ported to [CAIRO]
    .
    It provides smooth antialiased graphics and improves GIMP look. Some
    plug-ins have been upgraded to Cairo as well. Additionally(,) all
    tools now use an on-canvas progress indicator instead of the one in
    the statusbar.

New script API

      *

        A lot of GIMP APIs have been rebuilt to simplify developing new
        scripts.

      *

        To further enhances(enhance) scripting abilities, API changes to
        support layer groups have been made

Known Problems

    Working with graphics tablets could be problematic due to the GTK+2
    library in use. (If in this case - If this happens, ) either use the
    older version 2.6 or wait for the up(-) coming version 3.0 for the
    full GTK+3 support.


I may be a little comma-happy, but I am trying to improve 
readability/comprehension.  If I have misunderstood the meaning you were 
trying to convey, please try re-wording the phrase again.

In reply to Alexandre Prokoudine, yes I misspelled grammar - I didn't 
notice in my rush to get the message out, and my spell checker didn't 
complain (or at least I didn't notice it complaining).  Mea culpa.

And let me say that whoever drafted this page has much better English 
skills than I have in any other language, so many thanks for your 
efforts.  :)

Roger


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 08:30:01 +0200
From: Marco Ciampa 
To: Roger Goodman 
Cc: gimp-docs-list@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re:  Suggested changes for GIMP documentation
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On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 09:20:43AM -0400, Roger Goodman wrote:
> All,
>     Looking at the webpage at
> http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-introduction-whats-new.html, I would like
> to suggest the following changes (words or phrases between parenthesis):

First of all, thank for your revision.

> 2. What's New in GIMP 2.8?
> GIMP 2.8 is another important release from a development point of view, even
> more that(than) it was for 2.6. It features a big change to the user
> interface(,) addressing one of the most(-) often received complaints: the
> lack of a single(-) window mode. Moreover(,) the integration effort of( the
> ) GEGL library had(has) taken a big step forward, reaching more than 90% of
> the GIMP core, a new powerful transformation tool, layer groups, new common
> options, new brushes, improved text tool, and more.

Ok all seem good suggestions to me.

> New single window mode
> 
>    With this new feature(,) it will be possible to work with all the
>    GIMP dialogs inside one big window, usually with the image(s)
>    centered inside. No more floating panels or toolbox(,) but the
>    dialogs could be arranged inside this single window. This mode
>    could(can) be enabled or disabled (all the - change to at any) time,
>    even while working, and the option (will be remembered through the -
>    change to: is persistent across)  sessions.

Ok

> 
> I'm not entirely sure what the phrase "but the dialogs could be arranged
> inside this single window." means, so I won't make an attempt to change it
> for now, but it needs to be changed somehow so that I can better understand
> what is meant.

It means that you can move around the dialogs inside the single window
and dock them around at your will... it seems clear to me but ... I knew
this working before reading its description so I suppose I cannot judge
fairly...

> 
> New file save workflow
> 
>    Now Save and Save as work only with xcf formats. If you want to
>    export(save) an image in another format, say jpg or png, you have to
>    explicitly Export it. This enhances the workflow and lets you simply
>    overwrite the original file(,) or export to various other formats.
> 

Ok

> 
> A new tool: Cage Transform
> 
>    With this new tool is now possible to create custom bending of a
>    selection (by )just moving control points. This is the result of one
>    of our Google Summer of Code 2010 students.
>

Ok

> 
> Improved Text Tool
> 
>    The text tool has been enhanced to support on(-) canvas text
>    writing(,) and make(s) possible changing the attributes of a single
>    char(acter).

Ok

> 
> New layer groups
> 
>    It is now possible to group (a )set of layers(,) and treat them like
>    an entity. It is possible to switch a group on or off(,) and to move
>    the group in the layers dialog. It is easy to add / remove existing
>    layers to a group(,) or to create / delete a layer inside the
>    group(,) and it is even possible to create embedded groups of
>    groups. It is possible to apply a layer mode to a group as you do
>    with a single layer. All this greatly improves the workflow with
>    complex multilayer images(,) making them easier to manage.
>

Ok

> Cairo porting
> 
>    Started with GIMP version 2.6, all tools rendering on canvas is(are)
>    now completely ported to [CAIRO]
>    .
>    It provides smooth antialiased graphics and improves GIMP look. Some
>    plug-ins have been upgraded to Cairo as well. Additionally(,) all
>    tools now use an on-canvas progress indicator instead of the one in
>    the statusbar.
> 

Ok

> New script API
> 
>      *
> 
>        A lot of GIMP APIs have been rebuilt to simplify developing new
>        scripts.
> 
>      *
> 
>        To further enhances(enhance) scripting abilities, API changes to
>        support layer groups have been made
> 

Ok

> Known Problems
> 
>    Working with graphics tablets could be problematic due to the GTK+2
>    library in use. (If in this case - If this happens, ) either use the
>    older version 2.6 or wait for the up(-) coming version 3.0 for the
>    full GTK+3 support.
> 
> 

Ok

> I may be a little comma-happy, but I am trying to improve
> readability/comprehension. 

And I agree.

> If I have misunderstood the meaning you were
> trying to convey, please try re-wording the phrase again.
> 
> In reply to Alexandre Prokoudine, yes I misspelled grammar - I didn't notice
> in my rush to get the message out, and my spell checker didn't complain (or
> at least I didn't notice it complaining).  Mea culpa.
> 
> And let me say that whoever drafted this page has much better English skills
> than I have in any other language, so many thanks for your efforts.  :)
> 
> Roger
> 

Your precision and help is greatly appreciated. You see, I am still
learning English...

If no one has any objections I will commit these improvements in a couple
of days...

Thank you
Best regards

--


Marco Ciampa

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