On 09/05/18 10:35, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On 4 May 2018 at 14:34, Segher Boessenkool wrote: >> On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 03:16:14PM +0200, Mason wrote: >>> On 04/05/2018 01:03, John Carter wrote: >>> >>>> But compile with ... >>>> gcc -O3 -W -Wall -Wextra -o a a.c >>>> ...now results in NO warnings! >>>> >>>> ie. Although gcc _knows_ the assert _will_ trigger at run time... it can't >>>> tell me at compile time anymore. >>>> >>>> ie. Counter intuitively, adding asserts and error checks to my code has >>>> made me less safe. >>> >>> In the first version, gcc inlines the function call, which enables >>> further analysis. In the second version, the assert() call makes >>> gcc decide not to inline the function call, thus later analysis passes >>> are no longer able to spot the out-of-bounds access. >> >> No, that's not it. In the second version there *is* no out of bounds >> access! > > Right, the assert means that if the access would have been out of > bounds the program terminates. So (when NDEBUG is not defined) it's > impossible to reach the array access with an index >= 4. > > It doesn't hurt GCC's analysis, it just changes the program, and the > analysis works on the new program. > What you might want here is a smarter assert: extern void __attribute__((error("Smart assert always failed"))) __smartAssertAlwaysFail(void); #define smart_assert(x) do { \ if (__builtin_constant_p(x)) { \ if (!(x)) __smartAssertAlwaysFail(); \ } else { \ assert(x); \ } I use something similar for assertions in some of my embedded code (I don't use normal asserts, because there is no output or way to exit the program). I am sure something related could be put in the normal assert macro - perhaps with a warning rather than an error.