Consider the following code.... #include <stdio.h> void func( char * a, int i) { printf( "%c\n", a[i]); } int main( int argc __attribute__((unused)), char * argv[] __attribute__((unused))) { int i = 10; char a[] = "abc"; func( a, i); return 0; } Compile with.. gcc -W -Wall -Wextra -o b b.c and no warnings. Run it, it runs, but prints garbage. Compile with gcc -O3 -W -Wall -Wextra -o b b.c And gcc correctly points out the error.... b.c: In function ‘main’: b.c:5:21: warning: ‘*((void *)&a+10)’ is used uninitialized in this function [-Wuninitialized] printf( "%c\n", a[i]); ^ b.c:11:9: note: ‘a’ was declared here char a[] = "abc"; Hey! That's quite Smart of gcc, it analysed across the function boundary! (I have observed on large projects gcc is now astoundingly clever about this!) Now counter intuitively, adding asserts make things worse! Consider.... #include <stdlib.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <assert.h> void func( char * a, int i) { assert( i < 4); printf( "%c\n", a[i]); } int main( int argc __attribute__((unused)), char * argv[] __attribute__((unused))) { int i = 10; char a[] = "abc"; func( a, i); return 0; } Compiling without optimizations again produces no warnings, but at run time you, correctly.... a: a.c:7: func: Assertion `i < 4' failed. Compilation aborted (core dumped) at Fri May 4 10:52:26 But compile with ... gcc -O3 -W -Wall -Wextra -o a a.c ...now results in NO warnings! ie. Although gcc _knows_ the assert _will_ trigger at run time... it can't tell me at compile time anymore. ie. Counter intuitively, adding asserts and error checks to my code has made me less safe. I can't help feel there must be some cunning Cthulhu inspired way of utilizing what gcc clearly knows, to fail the assertion at compile time! Any suggestions? -- John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait Electronics PO Box 1645 Christchurch New Zealand -- This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at www.taitradio.com/email_disclaimer <http://www.taitradio.com/email_disclaimer>