On 19 March 2012 18:48, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On 19 March 2012 18:27, Hite, Christopher wrote: >> Thanks for the quick response. >>> The C++ standard says that for a POD type the initializer () will cause it to be zero-initialized. >> No the standard says: If I don't init the POD with an initializer or otherwise, I have to expect dirty memory there. > > Where does it say that? > > [dcl.init] paragraph 10 says "An object whose initializer is an empty > set of parentheses, i.e., (), shall be value-initialized." When Ray2 is value-initialized the following text from paragraph 7 applies: "if T is a (possibly cv-qualified) non-union class type without a user-provided constructor, then the object is zero-initialized and, if T’s implicitly-declared default constructor is non-trivial, that constructor is called." Note that the object is zero-initialized, then the implicitly-declared constructor Ray2::Ray2() is called, which calls the Ray::Ray() constructor. > [dcl.init] paragraph 11 says "If no initializer is specified for an > object, the object is default-initialized; if no initialization is > performed, an object with automatic or dynamic storage duration has > indeterminate value." In the default-initialized case Ray2::Ray2() is called, with no zero-initialization. > Your example has an initializer which is an empty set of parentheses. So as I said in my first mail, if you don't want the zero-initialization, remove the initializer i.e. the empty parentheses. If you don't see behaviour matching the standard semantics described above then I suggest you try a more recent version of GCC, and if you still don't get that behaviour then you should report a bug.