Hi, This keeps coming up again and again: CJK users want Pango to choose Latin fonts differently under a CJK locale than it does under a non-CJK locale. Making that work is currently impossible in Pango+fontconfig. The reason being that Pango passes a Latin "lang" to fontconfig for Latin runs, and fontconfig and font configurations have no way to differentiate the Latin in CJK locale from Latin in Latin locale cases. I'd like to propose adding a new element named "locale" that holds the original locale language. Fontconfig needs not know about this at all except that filling it in in FcDefaultSubstitute() like it does for "lang". Then users can write configuration that is sensitive to locale. Pango then can pass PangoContext language as "locale". PangoContext language defaults to the locale, so this is all consistent. I can do this all in Pango only, but given that I want to encourage CJK font developer/packagers to write such configuration for their fonts, would be nice to have it upstreamed. As an example, one would write: <match> <test name="lang"> <string>en</string> </test> <test name="locale"> <string>ja</string> </test> <edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same"> <string>SomeJapaneseFontWithGoodLatin</string> </edit> </match> It could be easier if we could match on scripts instead of languages, but that's another issue. Keith, what do you think? -- behdad http://behdad.org/ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 _______________________________________________ Fontconfig mailing list Fontconfig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/fontconfig