On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 12:42:40PM -0500, Aaron Metzger wrote: > Sadique Puthen wrote: > > > > >Basically it if you don't pre-allocate the entire image, virt-manager > >creates a sparse file to store the guest data which only occupies disk > >blocks while you write contents to that sparse file . When checking the > >size of the pre-allocated and sparse images, you should use "du", not > >"ls -lh". > > > > Thank you for your insight. You are correct. > > I have a guest image stored in a file called "subversion". > > "du" shows the actual size being used is smaller than what "ls" thinks. > > du -a subversion > 2158768 subversion > > ls -ld subversion > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 64424509441 2007-11-27 18:16 subversion You don't need to use 'du' - just use the '-s' flag to ls $ ls -lsh dan1.img 16K -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.1G 2007-11-29 17:51 dan1.img Shows its physical size is 16k, while its logical size is 2.1 GB. > I have a follow up question though. How do you cleanly backup and > restore these files using the smaller amount of space? Any simplistic > program that I try (e.g. "tar") also thinks my file is 60 Gig not 2 Gig > and creates a real file that uses 60 Gig of actual disk space. Use the --sparse option with tar. -S, --sparse handle sparse files efficiently > Can anyone share the simple steps with "dd" or other programs that let > you cleanly store a backup of the guest image which uses the smaller > amount of space and also correctly restores from that backup in a way > that preserves the orginal idea of a 60 Gig max guest disk size? 'cp' will also try to detect sparse files & handle them properly, but if it gets it wrong you can also use '--sparse=always' Dan -- |=- Red Hat, Engineering, Emerging Technologies, Boston. +1 978 392 2496 -=| |=- Perl modules: http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ -=| |=- Projects: http://freshmeat.net/~danielpb/ -=| |=- GnuPG: 7D3B9505 F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 -=| -- Fedora-xen mailing list Fedora-xen@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-xen