On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 11:32 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 11:10 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 10:03 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > > > But that's a bit open to interpretation. For example, it could be said > > > (I think I even did) that reboot/shutdown does work, it just takes > > > forever. Anyone else think it would be worthwhile to adjust the Beta > > > criteria to something like ... > > > > > > "The desktop's offered mechanisms (if any) for shutting down, > > > logging out and rebooting must work and perform the intended > > > function in a reasonable time." > > > > That's against the original intention of the criterion: the criterion is > > one of the set that came in from the desktop team, and they specifically > > wanted it to be about whether the desktop is able to trigger the action > > correctly, not whether the action actually completes successfully. > > That's not to say that we might not want to change it, but we could > > perhaps split it up, and it's something worth taking note of. > > I think it should be obvious that we not only want the action to be > triggered, but also to succeed. Well, the opposite was the original position: that it wasn't the desktop team's job to worry about if the kernel / systemd / initscripts / whatever had a bug which prevented the operation completing, it was only desktop team's job to make sure the operation fired correctly. I don't want to split hairs too finely, I just want to make sure we don't lose anything of our original intent :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test