On 04/12/2011 11:22 AM, James Laska wrote: > On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 11:02 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681582 >> >> This hangs a system with just one LV snapshot for about 5 minutes at >> shutdown. Disabling lvm2-monitor.service fixes the shutdown problem, >> but, obviously, defeats the purpose of monitoring. >> >> I think this should be a blocker. > > On the surface, it seems like it could be a beta blocker since when > configured for LVM snapshots, it may impact the beta criteria [1] "The > desktop's offered mechanisms (if any) for shutting down, logging out and > rebooting must work". However, LVM snapshots are not included in any > criteria. Also, if I understand correctly, it sounds like the system > does indeed shutdown ... but after a significant delay (5min). > > This seems like a candidate for a NTH for F-15-Final, but from what I > can tell doesn't meet any beta (or Final) blocker release criteria. > Unless of course, I'm misunderstanding the failure scenario. > > Thanks, > James > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Beta_Release_Criteria > James, I am wondering if there needs to be new or additional blocker criteria since systemd is now default with F15. My reasoning is: with F14 and before, monitoring LVM snapshots was not a problem and shutdowns/reboots simply stopped the lvm2-monitor. Now since there is a conflict introduced with systemd vs lvm2-monitor (bz 681582), the up-to-5 minute delay in shutdown/reboot could cause users to believe there is a problem that needs fixing and they may spend an inordinate amount of time trying to find the problem. I looked at the release criteria and didn't see anything that would fit the new systemd scenario. I know you indicated in the bz that it qualifies as an Nth for final, but it seems systemd vs the old services start/stop methods calls for some specific criteria. What do you think? Should I just go away and color in my coloring book or is there something here? Reading the bz, looks like the fix is pretty much straighforward based on Lennart's comments. -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test