2010-10-04 - Fedora QA meeting recap

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Greetings,

As usual, the minutes and IRC transcript are available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20101004

= Attendees =

People present (lines said)
      * jlaska (101)
      * kparal (42)
      * adamw (24)
      * jskladan (10)
      * jsmith (4)
      * saccia (2)
      * tk009 (1)

Unable to attend:
      * rhe
      * newgle1
      * wwoods
      * mkrizek

= Agenda =
      * Proposed meeting agenda -
        http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-October/094370.html 
      * MeetBot summary -
        http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-10-04/fedora-qa.2010-10-04-15.00.html 

== Previous meeting follow-up ==
      * No items

== F14 Test status ==

Consult schedule
(http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-14/f-14-quality-tasks.html) for remaining QA tasks.

Owner - AdamW, Hurry
Summary
      * Oct 01 - Hosted first F14Blocker review meeting last week -
        http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-10-01/f-14-blocker-review.2010-10-01-16.00.log.html
      * Oct 07 - [[QA:Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_Plan|Fedora 14 acceptance
        test run]] planned (see
        https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4140)
      * Oct 08 - F14Blocker review meeting planned
      * Oct 14 - F14Blocker TC1 test run planned
      * Oct 21 - F14Blocker RC1 test run planned
      * Oct 26 - F-14 Go/No Go meeting (see
        http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting)
Next steps...
      * Continue testing and identifying potential F14Blocker bugs
        (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F14Blocker&hide_resolved=1)
      * Newgle1 will be assisting with the acceptance run this week ...
        should we test more than just acceptance?
      * Jlaska will ask Hurry whether adding some amount of installer
        validation or installer bug verification is possible (note,
        Hurry and Newgle are out until Oct 11)

== F14 QA Activities ==

=== Sep 28-30 - Graphics test week ===
Owner - AdamW
Summary
      * Tuesday, Sep 28 -
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-09-28_Nouveau
      * Wednesday, Sep 29 -
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-09-29_Radeon
      * Thursday, Sep 30 -
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-09-30_Intel
Next steps...
      * Summary - Test day well attended, but not as busy as previous
        events.  AdamW will note any concerns/ideas on
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_QA_Retrospective
      * AdamW plans to send recap soon

=== Oct 07 - Open slot ===
Owner - ''nobody''
Summary
      * No planned test day
Next steps...
      * Possible use this test day slot for F-14 installer validation,
        or ON_QA verification

=== Oct 14 - OpenLDAP and nss ===
Owner - jzeleny, jvcelak, rmeggins, omoris
Summary
      * Wiki page available -
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-10-14_OpenLDAP/NSS
      * Kparal notes the devel+qe folks are very active for this event
Next steps...
      * kparal will monitor whether custom test day live images are
        needed, and request help if needed
      * Announce event (test-announce@, planet, lwn etc...)

== AutoQA update ==

Owner - kparal
Summary
      * wwoods will also add an rpm test transaction to depcheck to
        catch file conflicts -- moved to new ticket
        https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/229
      * jskladan and wwoods investigating mash integration
      * kparal - we stopped checking ''updates-testing'' repos in the
        upgradepath test, because we're not sure how to do that properly
        - we need to consult FESCo (see
        https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/474)
      * kparal started a thread about timing-sensitive tests -
        upgradepath and depcheck - how and when to correctly execute
        them
      * jskladan resultsdb patches for autoqa are waiting to be pushed
        to master
      * jskladan investigating a way for us to create ''generic testplan
        frontend''
Next steps...
      * Monitor and discuss ''upgradepath'' topic during next FESCO
        meeting (see https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/474)
      * Review resultsdb patchset for ''master''
      * Wwoods integrating mash into depcheck test

== F-14 Nice-to-have Proposal ==

Owner - AdamW
Summary
      * Adam sent a ''nice-to-have'' proposal to the list for feedback
        (see
        http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-September/093833.html)
      * It seems to be working out fine so far, we reviewed and accepted
        several NTH bugs at the blocker review meeting
Next steps...
      * Continue to monitor for feedback
      * Will activate the policy soon if no additional feedback

= Open discussion - <Your topic here> =

= Action items =
     1. Jlaska will ask Hurry whether adding some amount of installer
        validation or installer bug verification is possible (will need
        to wait until Oct 11).

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