On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > AIUI this is mostly a documentation issue, because the behaviour of > nautilus is intentional (it's meant to truly 'eject' the device, i.e., > completely remove it as far as the kernel is concerned). Yes indeed, but it should be presented clearly for users in this case. This use case is not insignificant. After all there a lot of netbooks in people's hands now, and there are several situations where having a usbkey to do an install (as opposed to having a usbkey for running a livecd) is valuable: 1) New netbook, with no optical drive, running a non-linux OS, and the user wants to partition the drive either for linux or dual boot and then install Fedora 2) Netbook where the HD fails and need an install on a brand new HD 3) User has several systems, including a netbook and needs to install the latest Fedora on all of them - then easiest if a bootable usbkey can be made available. 4) User opts to put bootable install system on a key rather than burn physical optical media 5) User wants to install on several systems in different locations and wants to take media (but not optical) with him/her rather than download across the network if there are bandwidth constraints. In many cases users will have access to a DVD drive but not always and there remains a percentage of users who have problems preparing clean optical media or who have problematic CD/DVD drives. So there remains a good case for using a bootable key, and it is the responsible thing to do to ensure that documentation and code to prepare usb media for this install method is supported well. Usbkeys are also relatively low cost now, and also easier to post out in snailmail than a DVD. Of course once a system is running Fedora then putting install media on the HD and booting to the install can be down without any media at all (or a network install) once a user is experienced enough. But even then there will remain cases where new installs are needed on either existing WIndows only systems, or on brand new HDs when a disk has failed, and not everyone wishes to keep burning a physical optical disk to do it even if they have a DVD drive on the system. Let's hope this method is nice and easy for people wanting to install F14. -- mike c -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test