Hi, folks. Just an update on desktop validation testing for F14 final (we'll hit the TC stage next week). I've been chatting to a few people about the idea of having bugs in desktop validation outside of GNOME block releases, and there turn out to be quite a lot of questions involved in terms of how exactly the project as a whole views the various spins and desktops. I'm happy to discuss this in more detail (oh, so much boring detail) if anyone's interested, but the upshot is that basically we're going to have to ask the board for clarification on a few things about the exact status of non-default desktops and spins. In the meantime, given the conclusion, I agreed with others in the release process (QA and releng) that for F14 Final (and we did this for Beta too) we'll consider failures in the desktop validation testing for LXDE and XFCE to be nice-to-have bugs under the new NTH process, rather than blockers. That means we'll take fixes for them through the release freeze, but won't hold the release for them. Failures in desktop validation testing for GNOME and KDE will be considered blockers. Once we have the wider questions sorted out one way or another, we'll take another look at the status of failures in LXDE and XFCE, and any other desktops/spins we extend validation testing to for F15 (I'm looking at Sugar and Meego for that time). But for now, just a heads-up that we'll be treating XFCE/LXDE validation issues as nice-to-have for Final. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test