========================================== #fedora-bugzappers: F14 Blocker Bug Review ========================================== Meeting started by jlaska at 16:00:07 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-10-01/f-14-blocker-review.2010-10-01-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Gathering critical mass (jlaska, 16:00:27) * The basics ... (jlaska, 16:04:55) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (jlaska, 16:05:31) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/2fqpazy (jlaska, 16:06:10) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Final_Release_Criteria (jlaska, 16:08:20) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584328 (jlaska, 16:08:33) * AGREED: 584328 - tentatively accepted as a valid release blocker. Impacts dmraid installation using custom partitioning on at least 1 system (unknown if more) (jlaska, 16:20:15) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636621 (jlaska, 16:20:26) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584328 (jlaska, 16:21:01) * ACTION: 584328 - dlehman has a fix inprogress, may require additional access to the affected system to test, will follow-up in bug (jlaska, 16:26:31) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636621 (jlaska, 16:26:52) * AGREED: 636621 - No criteria for loglevel= boot parameter, agreed to move to nice-to-have list (jlaska, 16:36:38) * ACTION: dlehman - patch in hand for 636621, will cherry-pick from master before next build (jlaska, 16:38:20) * IDEA: think about installer boot option loglevel= and if criteria need adjustment (jlaska, 16:39:17) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627388 (jlaska, 16:39:55) * AGREED: 627388 - unclear whether the reported problem still exists, awaiting feedback from reporter. May remove from list next meeting if no changes (jlaska, 16:43:20) * Leave in needinfo? requesting feedback from reporter (jlaska, 16:43:40) * Outstanding question for msivak in bug to address a new issue related to VNC prompt on text-mode installs (jlaska, 16:44:11) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/2drr5rs (jlaska, 16:44:53) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635778 (jlaska, 16:45:03) * 635778 - currently in MODIFIED, fix available in 14.18, awaiting anaconda build to test (jlaska, 16:47:13) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627789 (jlaska, 16:48:05) * 627789 - currently in MODIFIED, fix available in 14.18, awaiting anaconda build to test (jlaska, 16:49:06) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621685 (jlaska, 16:49:36) * 621685 included and tested in F-14-Beta, moved to CLOSED ERRATA (jlaska, 16:50:06) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621469 (jlaska, 16:50:26) * 621469 included and tested in F-14-Beta, moved to CLOSED ERRATA (jlaska, 16:50:59) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631987 (jlaska, 16:52:51) * AGREED: 631987 is a valid release blocker per criteria that all applications listed under the Applications menu must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after [...] normal use (jlaska, 16:55:37) * mclasen notes a fix is available upstream and should be included when brasero is bumped to 2.32 (jlaska, 16:57:15) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=637339 (jlaska, 16:59:00) * All applications listed under the Applications menu must withstand a basic functionality test (jlaska, 17:00:37) * AGREED: 637339 - accepted as release blocker, appears to affect basic empathy functionality (connecting to yahoo) and is covered by final release criteria (jlaska, 17:02:10) * (Meeting topic: F14 Blocker Bug Review) (jlaska, 17:02:18) * 637339 - a fix is pending submissino to stable, selinux-policy -7 has passed critpath requirements (jlaska, 17:02:57) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636118 (jlaska, 17:03:13) * AGREED: 636118 - accepted as release blocker, affects basic functionality of swell-foop (included on Live image) and is covered by final release criteria (jlaska, 17:07:14) * ACTION: 636118 - halfline (or someone from desktop) needed to investigate problem (jlaska, 17:08:51) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639130 (jlaska, 17:09:18) * AGREED: 639130 - not a release blocker or nice-to-have. gnome-games-extra is not provided on the Live image or DVD, does not meet release criteria (jlaska, 17:14:54) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623824 (jlaska, 17:15:18) * AGREED: 623824 - not a release blocker, no criteria exist to cover display to external monitors (jlaska, 17:21:49) * ACTION: ajax and reporter continue to triage the issue with F14 test results (jlaska, 17:22:07) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636585 (jlaska, 17:22:48) * AGREED: 636585 - not enough information to determine impacted release criteria. Recommend keeping on list until next meeting. Will remove if no feedback then. (jlaska, 17:28:00) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632814 (jlaska, 17:29:04) * AGREED: 632814 - a valid release blocker. Fixed and awaiting bodhi karma (jlaska, 17:34:06) * ACTION: 632814 - needs bodhi karma feedback from KDE users (jlaska, 17:34:41) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634182 (jlaska, 17:35:01) * AGREED: 634182 - not a release blocker, no longer impacting KDE spin size (jlaska, 17:39:04) * LINK: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/lxde/logs/20100930.15-x86_64.log (jlaska, 17:41:10) * LINK: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/ has logs for each (nirik, 17:41:12) * after inspection of nightly spin logs, appears 634182 may be resolved already (jlaska, 17:44:39) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630226 (jlaska, 17:45:30) * ACTION: adamw to close 630226 (adamw, 17:48:29) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639138 (jlaska, 17:49:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584328 (adamw, 17:49:38) * AGREED: 639138 - does not impact release criteria, but agreed to move to nice-to-have (jlaska, 17:56:02) * ACTION: 639138 - bcl owns parted, will review and potentially commiting fix+build (jlaska, 17:58:45) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629192 (jlaska, 17:59:16) * AGREED: 629192 - accepted as a release blocker because affects basic functionality for pino which is included on Live image (jlaska, 18:09:49) * ACTION: 629192 - adamw cc'd mclasen on the bz and plans to email desktop@xxxxxxxx to raise awareness of the issue (jlaska, 18:12:27) * Intermission ... will return @ 19:00 UTC (jlaska, 18:16:02) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631591 (jlaska, 19:02:51) * jforbes anticipates 631591 will be resolved in the final qemu release for F-14, but shouldn't block release (jlaska, 19:10:21) * AGREED: 631591 - not accepted as blocker. No criteria exist for running XP as a guest. (jlaska, 19:11:02) * if not blocker or nice-to-have, final build must be completed by 10/18 (jlaska, 19:11:43) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639393 (jlaska, 19:11:52) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-results/2010-October/042369.html (jlaska, 19:14:57) * ACTION: 639393 - adamw will propose release criteria to test@ list to prevent package dependency/conflicts in F-14-Final (jlaska, 19:31:44) * AGREED: 639393 - conditionally accepted as a release blocker pending adjustment to release criteria to accept all installable package dependency/conflicts (jlaska, 19:32:10) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635821 (jlaska, 19:33:54) * ACTION: 635821 - jlaska will ping gavin to make sure he knows this is a release blocker (jlaska, 19:38:01) * AGREED: 635821 - accepted as a release blocker per Alpha criteria that installer must be able to submit bugs to bugzilla (jlaska, 19:38:23) * (jlaska, 19:38:38) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=590883 (jlaska, 19:38:42) * ACTION: dwalsh - submit bodhi update for newer selinux-policy to fix 590883 (jlaska, 19:40:50) * AGREED: 590883 - accepted as a release blocker, fixed but not yet available for testing (jlaska, 19:43:15) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639391 (jlaska, 19:43:38) * AGREED: 639391 - tentatively accepted as a release blocker based on proposed criteria update to include all package dependency problems (jlaska, 19:55:23) * ACTION: 639391 - msuchy needed to resolve conflict (jlaska, 19:56:52) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626205 (jlaska, 19:57:21) * AGREED: 626205 - no action taken, need to reach out to sgallagh for help determining impact (jlaska, 20:04:28) * ACTION: jlaska to discuss impact of 626205 with sgallagh (jlaska, 20:04:47) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=637405 (jlaska, 20:05:14) * AGREED: 637405 - not accepted as release blocker, accepted as nice-to-have. Will take if fix is available (jlaska, 20:11:17) * ACTION: Peter_Gordon - investigate and recommend solution for bug 637405 (jlaska, 20:12:00) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528022 (jlaska, 20:12:21) * AGREED: 528022 is technically a blocker under criterion 'In most cases, there must be no SELinux 'AVC: denied' messages or abrt crash notifications on initial boot and subsequent login', but the alert on vbetool's behaviour is explicitly desired; if vbetool cannot be adjusted we should except this alert from the criteria (adamw, 20:28:46) * ACTION: adamw to follow up with dwalsh and vbetool maintainer to discover if there's any practical way to fix this (adamw, 20:28:49) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=603386 (jlaska, 20:29:10) * AGREED: 603386 - not accepted as a blocker bug, no criteria exist to guaruntee a smooth display transition during boot/login on all hardware (jlaska, 20:33:03) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623956 (jlaska, 20:33:14) * AGREED: 623956 - not accepted as release blocker, acceptable for nice-to-have. VESA is not expected to work in KVM (cirrus) (jlaska, 20:36:55) * willing to accept as a nice-to-have issue, if the fix is low-risk (jlaska, 20:37:15) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628528 (jlaska, 20:37:39) * AGREED: 628528 - need more information from maintainer+reporter to determine impact. Accepted as nice-to-have in interim (jlaska, 20:44:18) * NTH review process start! (adamw, 20:46:24) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627073 (adamw, 20:46:26) * AGREED: 627073 acceptednth (adamw, 20:48:32) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632805 (adamw, 20:48:35) * AGREED: 632805 acceptednth (adamw, 20:51:13) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634556 (adamw, 20:51:25) * AGREED: 634556 acceptednth (adamw, 20:54:03) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634777 (adamw, 20:54:13) * AGREED: 634777 need more info on exactly what strings are affected; if things that are part of the fedora 'chrome' on the page are affected, than we accept (adamw, 20:58:15) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635239 (adamw, 20:58:44) * AGREED: 635239 adamw drops proposal as nth bug pending further testing (adamw, 20:59:36) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636170 (adamw, 21:00:17) * AGREED: 636170 acceptednth (adamw, 21:02:40) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636227 (adamw, 21:02:49) * AGREED: 636227 acceptednth (adamw, 21:06:05) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638656 (adamw, 21:06:39) * AGREED: 638656 acceptednth (adamw, 21:12:37) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542255 (adamw, 21:13:24) * AGREED: 542255 acceptednth (adamw, 21:14:56) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623742 (adamw, 21:15:05) * AGREED: 623742 acceptednth (adamw, 21:17:31) * open floor (adamw, 21:17:42) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639280 (adamw, 21:19:11) * AGREED: 639280 accepted as nice-to-have, and would definitely like to see it fixed (adamw, 21:24:42) Meeting ended at 21:27:56 UTC. Action Items ------------ * 584328 - dlehman has a fix inprogress, may require additional access to the affected system to test, will follow-up in bug * dlehman - patch in hand for 636621, will cherry-pick from master before next build * 636118 - halfline (or someone from desktop) needed to investigate problem * ajax and reporter continue to triage the issue with F14 test results * 632814 - needs bodhi karma feedback from KDE users * adamw to close 630226 * 639138 - bcl owns parted, will review and potentially commiting fix+build * 629192 - adamw cc'd mclasen on the bz and plans to email desktop@xxxxxxxx to raise awareness of the issue * 639393 - adamw will propose release criteria to test@ list to prevent package dependency/conflicts in F-14-Final * 635821 - jlaska will ping gavin to make sure he knows this is a release blocker * dwalsh - submit bodhi update for newer selinux-policy to fix 590883 * 639391 - msuchy needed to resolve conflict * jlaska to discuss impact of 626205 with sgallagh * Peter_Gordon - investigate and recommend solution for bug 637405 * adamw to follow up with dwalsh and vbetool maintainer to discover if there's any practical way to fix this Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to close 630226 * 629192 - adamw cc'd mclasen on the bz and plans to email desktop@xxxxxxxx to raise awareness of the issue * 639393 - adamw will propose release criteria to test@ list to prevent package dependency/conflicts in F-14-Final * adamw to follow up with dwalsh and vbetool maintainer to discover if there's any practical way to fix this * bcl * 639138 - bcl owns parted, will review and potentially commiting fix+build * dlehman * 584328 - dlehman has a fix inprogress, may require additional access to the affected system to test, will follow-up in bug * dlehman - patch in hand for 636621, will cherry-pick from master before next build * halfline * 636118 - halfline (or someone from desktop) needed to investigate problem * jlaska * 635821 - jlaska will ping gavin to make sure he knows this is a release blocker * jlaska to discuss impact of 626205 with sgallagh * **UNASSIGNED** * ajax and reporter continue to triage the issue with F14 test results * 632814 - needs bodhi karma feedback from KDE users * dwalsh - submit bodhi update for newer selinux-policy to fix 590883 * 639391 - msuchy needed to resolve conflict * Peter_Gordon - investigate and recommend solution for bug 637405 People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jlaska (514) * adamw (404) * Oxf13 (148) * buggbot (47) * dlehman (35) * notting (23) * jsmith (23) * nirik (11) * halfline (10) * zodbot (9) * bcl (8) * rdieter (8) * stickster (8) * jforbes (5) * robatino (2) * fenris02 (1) * hannes| (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot
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