Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 12:12 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > >> It is however, perfectly reasonable to expect that having tried a >> kernel at the request of a fedora developer on fedora-test-list and >> then having filed a bug against said kernel reporting problems, that >> someone might actually have a few minutes required to actually ask a >> few more questions and try and address the problem. >> >> Otherwise, why did they ask for feedback if it was just to be ignored? > > To be frank, they don't have time to look at everything, and suspend is > a bit of a way down the list. They are aware of your bug - I know > because one of the kernel team asked me if I was aware of any problems > with 2.6.34 more serious than suspend issues, so obviously they've seen > yours, but haven't had time to respond to it yet. If they don't have time to look at everything, then maybe they should stop shipping kernels they haven't looked at! Really, people who needed 2.6.34 could pull it from updates-untested and the rest of us could have working systems. Back in the FC3-4-5-6 days stuff released seemed to work, but in the last two years there have been more and more things shipped which broke existing installations. It feels like there is more effort to get lots of stuff out fast even if it doesn't work, if it breaks things for users, etc. I doubt many people would lose bladder control if the next release was slipped a month so the regressions in the recent stuff could be fixed. The video drivers are another example, about half the systems which worked on FC9 have broken video on FC13, and the same goes for getting every new this and that in FC14, aren't there responsible adults who either limit the feature set or slip the release? Someone like Linus who is willing to say "enough." Remember the old commercial "We will ship no wine before its time?" FC14 needs to mellow and FC13 is turning to vinegar. At least this time I'm not the first or only unhappy user. -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
