2010-08-30 - Fedora QA meeting recap

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As always, notes and transcript available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20100830

= Attendees =

People present (lines said):
      * jlaska (98)
      * adamw (66)
      * kparal (41)
      * wwoods (41)
      * jskladan (22)
      * skvidal (16)
      * Viking-Ice-Home (15)
      * fenris02 (10)
      * zodbot (4)
      * robatino (3)
      * jsmith (3)
      * vaschenb (2)

Unable to attend:
      * rhe
      * Newgle1

= Agenda =
      * Proposed meeting agenda -
        http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-August/093120.html 
      * MeetBot summary -
        http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-08-30/fedora-qa.2010-08-30-15.00.html 

== Previous meeting follow-up ==
     1. adamw and jlaska to propose artwork final release criteria
              * jlaska sent out an email to design-team this morning to
                collect some thoughts (see
                http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-August/003190.html)
     2. jlaska to publish F-14-Alpha QA retrospective page
              * the wiki page is available for anyone to record thoughts
                about the Alpha ... (see
                https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_QA_Retrospective)
              * it's not wiki formatted to my liking yet, but I'll get
                to that soon

== F14 Test Days ==

=== Aug 26 - OpenSCAP ===
Owner - kparal
Summary
      * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-08-26_OpenSCAP
      * The test day was quite successful, quite a lot of problems were
        identified and they were fixed
      * The new openscap release, which is just waiting for pushing into
        updates, should fix all those issues
Next steps...
     1. kparal will send a recap to the list later today

=== Sep 02 - preupgrade ===
Owner - rhe
Summary
      * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-09-02_Preupgrade
      * Wiki page and test cases in place. As rhe mentioned on the list,
        testing preupgrade-cli will be included in this event
Next steps...
     1. <adamw> will get some publicity out for this one as we'll want
        to have as many people as possible test
     2. <jlaska> to reach out to rhe for any final wiki modifications
        needed

=== Sep 09 - systemd ===
Owner - adamw
Summary
      * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-09-09_Systemd
      * Adamw has the test day mostly set up, he would appreciate review
        of the monster test cases (which are heavily based on notting's
        systemd 'acceptance criteria')
      * Current systemd package in F-14 stable should resolve most of
        issues identified on mailing list
        (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/systemd-8-3.fc14,initscripts-9.17-2.fc14)
Next steps...
     1. Adamw add a few other test cases, he'll check in with lennart on
        what he thinks so far
     2. Viking-Ice intends to complete the systemd debugging page

== Proventester (metrics and sponsor upgrade) ==

Owner - jlaska
Summary
      * Received a request from a proventester to be upgraded to a
        sponsor, so that they could mentor others.  This got me thinking
        whether we have (or need) expectations around becoming a
        sponsor.
      * In addition, are we able to gather metrics about proventesters?
Next steps...
     1. Adamw directed jlaska to the policy regarding becoming a
        mentor.  
     2. Jlaska will elevate mcloaked to sponsor status.
     3. Adamw recalled previously filed metrics ticket
        (https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/456) and took action to
        follow-up at the next meeting

== AutoQA update ==

Owner - wwoods
Summary
      * jskladan finished the "how to write autoqa tests" wiki draft
        (see
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jskladan/Sandbox:Writing_autoqa_tests)
      * wwoods updated the autoqa depcheck tickets to give a bit more
        information - including the "make it use mash" ticket (see
        https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/201)
      * vaschenb updated upgradepath, the new test... now it has
        improved output and is automaticaly started with
        post-bodhi-update hook
Next steps...
     1. jskladan will replace current wiki page
        (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Writing_AutoQA_Tests) with
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jskladan/Sandbox:Writing_autoqa_tests by end of week
     2. wwoods + jskladan continue investigating how best to handle mash
        with depcheck test
     3. wwoods also investigating setting up depcheck to handle karma
     4. autoqa team agrees now is a good time to make a new autoqa
        release and deploy it.  Jlaska will package and deploy
        autoqa-0.4.0-1

= Open discussion - <Your topic here> =

= Action items =
     1. adamw contact lmacken about proventester metrics
        https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/456
     2. jlaska build and deploy new autoqa release

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