On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 11:33 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 14:16 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > > Alpha: when booting a traditional installer image, the boot sequence > > > should be such that the system boots into the installer (after a > > > reasonable timeout for any optional user input, if appropriate) without > > > the need for any user input. > > > > > > Beta: the graphical boot menu must appear as intended. > > > > > > What does everyone think would be best here? One of the above, or some > > > other option? Thanks! > > > > Just to add some visual exhibits ... see the attachments to compare > > rawhide and Fedora 13 boot dialogs. > > > > I was going to suggest the criteria around the timout, but you've > > already suggested that above. I think that's a nice touch. > > > > Is there a large technical challenge that requires splitting the boot > > criteria in two? I'm not opposed to it, but I'm not sure if it's an > > artificial division, or if there are really cases that demand the split. > > If we can require that the boot media be setup correctly at the Alpha, > > I was just trying to cover the possibilities. For me, the appearance of > a graphical menu is really a polish issue and doesn't fit well with > Alpha, it seems more suited to Beta or Final. But the practical element > is whether the boot-to-the-installer process actually works, no matter > what you see in the meantime. For me the loss of the other options on > the menu isn't really critical until beta, but the install process > should at least start if you just boot and wait at Alpha stage. > > It may be too much effort to draw this distinction, though, in which > case we may as well go with #1. Yeah, definitely #1. > > Another thought, I recall there was some debate about adding release > > criteria for the artwork. Would it make sense to rephrase the second > > point to something more specific to Fedora artwork? [1] > > For me that's *definitely* a final release polish issue. I don't think > we can really say we want to delay the Alpha or even Beta release simply > for an old wallpaper on the bootloader menu, can we? No, I wouldn't argue this as a Alpha (or possibly Beta) criteria. I only meant to suggest that it could be combined with something more generic about artwork for the release. Like you point out above, it feels more like a polish issue. Much like many of the artwork issues (not meant to diminish their contribution, only that they are not required for proper function). Thanks, James
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