I guess java crashing on most java-enabled pages I have tried so far doesn't qualify as a blocker, but I certainly hope work is being done to get the Java plugin back to the stability it had in F12. It happens both on a system upgaded from F12 and on a system freshly installed with F13. One is i686, the other x86_64. It happens both in firefox and epiphany. Some pages will crash java consistently (logon to both of my banks), others may work fine after a browser restart (HP C-class blade system iLO console applet). No real error messages. Mostly just a 'Segmentation fault (Core dumped)' (epiphany) or (firefox:11145): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_string_erase: assertion `pos + len <= string->len' failed . Epiphany crashes. In firefox the applets just don't initialise. Logged using abrt on epiphany as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591729 but I guess it could get reassigned to OpenJDK... birger -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test