On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 16:52 -0400, James Laska wrote: > >> Will leave this as a discussion topic next week. The open questions for >> me are ... >> >> 1. What are our expectations for proventesters? Kamil's package >> update test plan [1] seems like a great start. What other >> guidance can we give proventesters? I'd like to avoid saying, >> "please just test stuff" >> 2. How to determine whether someone who is requesting proventesters >> membership has the right stuff? Can we document the criteria >> that will be used? Bugzilla stats (new bugs, traiged bugs), >> bodhi karma supplied, mailing list contributions ... > > I tend to approach this kind of thing quite liberally; I don't think > it's worth sweating too hard about rejecting people, usually I consider > the group as a tool for smoothing out the process if problems appear. > I'd broadly expect to approve most people who apply, and the group > membership acts as a check on their work; if we find someone is being > malicious (or, unlikely, just really bad and not able to improve their > work), we can always take them out of the group again. > > In general I reckon anyone who has the motivation to read the > instructions through and apply to the group probably is going to be > amenable to working co-operatively with the rest of the group and > working in line with whatever procedures we agree, which is all we > really require. > > But that's just my approach, there are others :) > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org > http://www.happyassassin.net > > -- > test mailing list > test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test > I actually agree with your take on this quite a bit, I don't so much want the group membership prerequisites to be a hindering factor but more of a path of guidance for new testers to get involved and have a sense of direction on "where to go from $here" for many values of $here. I do however think there should be some level of review for membership, but I don't generally think people will apply for proventesters until they've been working on testing the distro for a while and have a good footing on the generally day to day on goings of QA so I don't imagine there will ever be an issue where we would have to turn someone down (or I hope we wouldn't have to). -AdamM P.S. - Apologies for missing the meeting, course load is crazy since the semester is wrapping up -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test