It has been a few years since I followed/tested the Fedora development cycle. I am pleasantly surprised and pleased with the quality of the process, the responsiveness of the maintainers/developers, and the quality of the resulting product ... a really good job! I am pleased enough with F12 that I plan to upgrade all of my F11 systems to F12 when F12 is released and I have not updated like this in years (I recently upgraded from F9 to F11). I am hoping that the recently described problems with the X server and firstboot are not a show-stopper for the Beta and that the Beta does appear next week so that I can give installing it a try. For all intents and purposes, I am running the beta now since I have kept my real (baremetal) F12 systems updated and well as installing the F12beta release candidates as qemu- kvm guests. But, when the beta is out, I will re-install using the beta DVD to make sure that works. As I said, it has been a few years since I followed the development process. I assume that the current lack of additional rawhide updates is so that a "good" beta release could be done and that updates will resume once the beta DVD, etc. have been cut ... is this correct? I also assume that the addition of function is now frozen with the beta and that only bug fix updates will be added to rawhide ... correct? Gene -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list