On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 09:15 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:44 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > 1. To echo southern_gentleman, a live CD is key: you get far more people > > showing up if you provide a live CD. See the F11 cycle test day pages > > for examples on how to handle it (basically you just say 'up to date > > Rawhide OR the live CD image' in the requirements section, and there's > > another bit where you provide a link to download the live CD). Let me or > > James know if you have any trouble generating or providing a live CD. > > Thanks for the offer. As things currently stand, it looks like > a) livecd building doesn't work reliable (failed for me, but worked for > Adam and Fedora Unity also has rawhide spins) > b) the isos are too large (see my mail from last night) > c) X doesn't work (at least in qemu) Yikes. Yeah, things can be a bit hairy this early in the cycle :|. Obvious stuff: try again each day (for some test days we have to try for two or three days to generate a live CD, and just use the one that works best), and test on real hardware (ISTR reading of some brokenness between the current X server and the driver for the graphics card qemu emulates by default, so that could be the problem there; it wouldn't affect much real hardware, as qemu emulates a rather odd, very old card, something Cirrus Logic if memory serves). > Also, it doesn't > > really follow the system used by previous Test Day pages. I'd suggest: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-07-07_fitandfinish_display_configuration > > > > or something similar to that. > > Sure, feel free to move it there. Alright, I'll do that in a minute. > I'm a little torn on this one. Certainly, adding details is good, in > general, and it certainly helps for reproducing problems if things are > written down step-by-step. But on the other hand, we hope to find issues > that get in the way of people using their system in the way _they_ want > to use it for getting concrete things done, not things that don't work > as they try to follow a recipe for testing something... So I think we'll > have to experiment a little bit with finding the right balance here. > I'll have a go at adding a more detailed writeup for some of the display > configuration use cases. Good points indeed: if you want testing to be a bit more free form, test cases may not be the best way. I'll leave this up to your judgment then :) > > 4. There's a few superficial things - the intro could specify that this > > is a Fit and Finish track test day, there's no space before ? at the end > > of a sentence in English, stuff like that - but I'll just fix those > > myself, I think. > > Yeah, if you care about punctuation, please help yourself. I usually > leave my Strunk at home when I go into the wiki... OK, will do. It's not super important, but it does give a good impression of a project that knows what it's doing, when your page is nicely laid out and free of language issues :) I added a new column to the Fedora 12 Test Days schedule page, to show the schedule for fit and finish test days: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_12_test_days does that look good to you? If not, an alternative would be for it to have its own page, looking much like that page, called something like Fit_and_finish_test_days , linked from the same top page (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days ). Thanks again! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
