On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 07:36 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 09:29 +0200, Kåre Fiedler Christiansen wrote: > > > Anyway, you are hardly being constructive. Do you seriously suggest > > that the page describing how to use the Adobe flash plugin is better > > if you omit how to make a certain feature of it work? Currently you > > will simply get distorted images if you try to use the feature, and it > > will reflect on Fedora as if Fedora doesn't support webcams properly. > > Indeed! > > In fact, this entire thread is one hornet's nest that I truly regret > having somehow kicked over. Believe me when I say that was _never_ my > intent. > > By the by, I never got to answer Paul's question of how he could have > put this better with respect to "people who care about software > freedom", as it appeared. The interesting part is, if you read the posts > carefully, we're in agreement about the values, but just have a slight > difference of opinion in in how they are best expressed. And even then, > there was room for discussion and compromise. I would have used > something like this to make the point: > > The page has been updated to include that 1) Flash is not Free > Software (although it may be available free of charge), and 2) > that there are Free and Open Source software alternatives to > Flash which may be adequate for an individual user's needs. > Making this annotation is in keeping with Fedora's values of > promoting and encouraging the use of Free and Open Source > software. > > I think this makes the same point, but does so in a way that better > avoids the "slight" that I and a couple of others detected in the > language. > > OK - moving on now. Hopefully others will as well! There a release that > still needs a few small kinks knocked out and we don't need to be > distracted. > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > -- > ============================= > "You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?' > I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'" > > -- George Bernard Shaw > Thanks for your effort to end this unneeded war over opinions. I agree this energy could be used elsewhere. Let us move on to bigger and better things. > > > -- Lawrence E. Graves <lgraves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list