On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 16:34 -0400, David wrote: > On 5/22/2009 3:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 14:05 -0400, David wrote: > > > >> Just keep repeating to yourself, "Linux is an OS... Linux is not a > >> cause... Linux is an OS... Linux is not a cause..." > >> > >> :-) > > > > Linux isn't an OS, it's a kernel. Fedora is an OS (and a project which > > creates an OS), and Fedora certainly has a cause element to it. Note > > that the first of Fedora's four pillars is Freedom. :) The Fedora > > project is not a project to create the best-working operating system at > > a given moment in time with no regard to the freedom of the code it > > contains, so in this respect, your position does not match that of the > > Fedora project in general. > Just how often have you heard someone answer, when asked, 'what OS do > you use?' Something other than 'Linux'? Seldom is the name of the > distribution used. Sure, and I'm not going around making that 'correction' all the time. In most contexts it's unimportant. In this one, however, it's important. We are not working on the somewhat slippery and un-pindownable 'Linux', we are working on Fedora, a project with very well-defined goals and priorities. > And that was not my point anyway. One person here needs a working Flash > for his work so he uses Flash from Adobe. And another person was calling > him, sort of, a 'traitor to the free software cause' because he was not > using the somewhat broken gnash. He did not call it by name. I can think > of several places the gnash does not work. No-one called anyone a traitor, you misinterpreted. I was surprised that anyone was able to take such an adversarial reading of Paul's post, when it clearly (to my mind) was not so intended. > This is all baloney. Use the tool that will do what you need to do. A > computer is a machine, a toll. Not an altar. Bread on the table beats > hungry every time. IMO. That's not a debate that's appropriate for this list, but it is clearly not Fedora's position, either in theory or in fact. We do not include non-free software in Fedora even where it would lead, in the short term, to a better 'user experience'. That doesn't mean every Fedora user is required to follow the free software ideology, but it does have implications for how issues should be presented on pages that represent the Fedora project. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
