On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Gregory Maxwell wrote: >> Do many users have a use for flash with no video/audio support, zero >> possibility of video/audio support, and generally poor compatibility >> otherwise? > > With the appropriate GStreamer plugins from RPM Fusion, several video and > audio stuff actually works. Not all though. Right, but while Fedora could ship gnash-by-default the codecs are right out and without them is there really much reason to ship gnash-by-default? (or rather, is there enough benefit to offset potential browser stability problems and potentially defeating website fallbacks (i.e. today you might get a non-flash version of the page when no flash is detected, but with gnash you can get a flash version that doesn't work and no obvious way to get to the non-flash version)). > I agree about the poor compatibility, I'm not all that happy with it. Still, > it's the only Free Software Flash solution which works with Konqueror, > which is why I picked the Fedora package up when it got orphaned. (There's > swfdec, but that still doesn't have a Konqueror plugin and AFAIK their > Mozilla plugin doesn't work in Konqueror, though I haven't tried it in > 4.2.) > > But mostly I'd just recommend not to use Flash at all. I hate Flash ads. (At > least with Gnash you can just right-click and "Quit Gnash" to get rid of > them.) What's annoying is that Firefox keeps prompting for plugin > installation every single time. Konqueror can be told to remember a "No" > answer. If all you need Flash for is YouTube, there are downloaders who can > download the videos so they can be played with a local media player such as > Kaffeine or Totem (given appropriate xine-lib or GStreamer plugins from RPM > Fusion). Fortunately F11 will be shipping Firefox 3.1 with free media support. So perhaps they'll be some progress there in the wider world. Also, there are some sites like http://tinyvid.tv/ which will convert video from sites like youtube to free formats. (Sites like that can play codec licensing fees so you don't have to. :) ) -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
