Tom Horsley wrote:
The trouble is, it is really easy to understand why people
could grow to hate ALSA. It is way too low level. For instance
to get a DVD played with the digital sound directly routed
out of the SP/DIF interface on my motherboard, I have to
say this:
amixer set IEC958 unmute
amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
amixer set 'IEC958 Playback Source' PCM
exec mplayer dvd://1 -alang en -ao alsa:device=hw=0.0 -ac hwdts,hwac3, \
-monitoraspect 16:9 -fs
That is one heck of a lot of cryptic gibberish when what I ought
to be able to do is click a button somewhere that says "Hey! Send
the already encoded digital audio to the digital audio interface".
(Like I can do in Windows, for instance :-).
The problem is, pulseaudio doesn't seem to be solving problems
like this. I can at least spend six weeks searching the web
to finally come up with the gibberish I need to make ALSA work
for this, but as yet, there appears to be no way to make pulseaudio
talk to anything except one primary pair of stereo speakers, and
if you have more audio options than that, forget it.
You seem to know what you are talking about, so you are probably right.
If you just want to connect one audio source directly and thus
exclusively with one audio device and know how to do it then you don't
want pulseaudio.
Pulseaudio wants to help you managing your audio - and does that by
managing it for you and mixing all your audio sources and redirecting to
your audio devices. Take it or leave it. Pulseaudio makes it easy to
redirect wherever you want and mix all your audio. But if you don't want
mixing then you don't want pulseaudio.
Yes, we probably also need better documentation of how to disable
pulseaudio. But the topic of this thread was how to help and support
pulseaudio. Disabling pulseaudio is the last resort answer to that
question - and in some cases the right answer.
If you guys want better support for systems without pulseaudio or better
alternatives to pulseaudio then you have to contribute to that.
Criticizing pulseaudio won't make it go away.
Combine that with the fact that pulseaudio appears to be desperate
to solve some kind of problem I not only don't have, but can't
understand, and "yum erase pulseaudio" is far and away my best
option.
FWIW I don't have your problem. But I use and appreciate the features
described in the rationale on
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeaturePulseaudio. Let's make
sure Fedora keeps working for both usecases!
/Mads
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