>> > I'm trying to meet a (probably overly aggressive) personal goal of >> > having zero NEW rawhide bugs (which are not Package Reviews) by the time >> > of Fedora 10 GA. Along the way I thought I'd post some of the questions >> > and issues I see while triaging these bugs so we can all learn. I >> > encourage others to do the same. I've just knocked the list down to >> > close to 500! >> > >> > If you want to join in and help the query for NEW rawhide bugs excluding >> > package reviews is here: http://tinyurl.com/6llac8 >> > >> > Here is what I have so far: >> > >> > # Is there a general policy around using perl in pre/post ? >> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462996 >> >> Not that I know of, but it is good practice to avoid creating unneccessary >> dependancies if there are alternatives, particularly if the choice is between >> a large package & small package. Many perl scripts can be done just as well >> with a short piece of awk/sed. This makes it much easier for people who want >> to build minimal/small Fedora images because they don't unneccessarily >> bring in the entire of Perl just for a %post script. Not that I want to single >> out perl - the same rationale would apply to unneccessary use of python, if >> the use in question could be easily written in awk/sed. > > Fully agreed, but ... consider both python and perl > * are part of the base-packages Fedora is based on. > * there are other dependencies adding much more bloat to "minimal > installs" That's not entirely true. In fact its very easy now to run a complete gnome desktop without perl at all. I'm doing it quite successfully with rawhide on my eeePC. I've filed a number of bugs (the one mentioned above it done by me) to fix issues with dependencies on perl since the alpha release, unfortunately a number of the bug fixes didn't make the beta but have since made it to rawhide (evolution, gstreamer-plugins-base, libbonobo now all don't depend on perl) there have also been a number of others that have split the perl dependency out into a sub package. The only other package that depends on perl just because of the pre/post scripts is docbook-dtds. The bug for that one is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462997 and not having it is a bit of a bummer as evince depends on that package and viewing PDFs is quite useful. I would ultimately like to see the Live CD not depending on perl. This will save a number of meg off the build. Python is quite a bit harder as it is used in a lot of RH systems packages. Peter -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
