Re: F9-Beta install from local harddisk - broken?

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On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 21:15 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> By bringing it into a form where it can be used daily.
> To have the Beta fail during installation where the Alpha had no
> problems is weird.

I and not a small number of my colleagues use rawhide as their daily
machines.  We run into issues sure, and we file bugs and get them fixed.
To claim that it isn't usable is a bit of a stretch.  Maybe it isn't
usable, today, for you, and that's one thing.  Could be something minor
too.

> 
> > As for slow, we have all sorts of debugging turned on all over the place
> > so that when things to crash we have enough breadcrumbs to figure out
> > what went wrong and fix it.  Those will be removed over the next week or
> > so, which will make it harder to get anything useful out of any bugs you
> > find afterward.
> 
> Still, when I asked about this slowness (and even asked about kernel
> level debugging, too), nobody wanted to confirm or deny. So, in that
> old thread I went and booted Rawhide with F8`s kernel, it didn`t feel
> snappier either.

That's because vague "it's slow" doesn't really help much.  Kind of hard
to come up with a solution for that.

>  
> > And we're sorry you had a grub bug, which may be a real bug, but it's by
> > far not the common case and thus it didn't get any testing until you
> > tried it.  It likely would still be broken in the final release if you
> > didn't try it (not that I'm claiming it will be fixed, this may be one
> > of those "don't do that" issues, but at least we'll know about it and
> > can document it due to your testing).
> 
> The traceback in Anaconda related to GRUB device options is from a
> real-world install scenario. It's very common to install GRUB not into
> the MBR. The other bug in GRUB shell certainly is no
> "don't do that" issue, because the GRUB shell is made for things
> like that.

Yes, the traceback from anaconda is a real bug, what's the bug # again?

Your grub shell issue isn't what I was commenting on, it was trying to
use F8's grub to load F9.  That's the untested and potentially "don't do
that" type thing.  Again what's the bug #?

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Jesse Keating
Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?

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