On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:56:16 -0700, Andrew Farris wrote: > > The recent F8 kernel update is in the same area. In bodhi it's at karma -6 > > already, not counting anonymous users. The first tester there gave it +1 > > although he had to delete/reconfig his network profiles (which probably > > was the same bug that hit me and killed the network). > > And then noone else bothered during the entire week it was in updates-testing. > A lack of manpower testing or just people too lazy to help provide feedback to > the *community*-driven distro... That's a great attitude. Not. That kernel update was forced upon the community. It will happen again. In the hope to find more guinea-pigs. It was not even waited for at least a sufficient number of positive karma points. No real interest to be careful with such an upgrade. The warning in the first comment was ignored. Later, negative karma and a request to not push this update were ignored deliberately, too, because the people who wanted to rush with this update have the freedom to overrule anyone else. > Its not exactly hard to do on bodhi, so can > making testing easier really be where the blame lies? Give more guarantees about what impact karma points in bodhi have. Recently, Josh Boyer mentioned that a -3 rating would block an update automatically. I dunno where this has been mentioned before, but it is very important information. Make sure that negative karma points spent after a push request are not ignored either. > Hardly anyone took notice > of that kernel until it hit updates, That's the problem of such a flood of updates. The bodhi newsfeed here only displays 20 items. The updates-testing report is very long and not very readable. > then all of a sudden there is feedback. > Guess what? That pretty much means people weren't actually testing. Hear, hear! You want community-driven kernel updates? Then do what has been suggested before. Release a kernel only after a minimum number of positive votes from within the community. Make it more transparent who decides whether to unleash an untested kernel update upon the community. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
